Nice little earner!!

[mogul397]

I'll add one separate thought.

In talking to Mr C asking about if he would wait 2 or 3 don't passes, his
best answer (from the movie test which I kind of presume morphed a little
into trial play) was that he would see if it was a "2 don't or 3 don't table".

Another question involved the 1st and 2nd bet.  You bet 1 unit. If you lose,
you bet 2 units to get it back with a profit.  But not always apparently.
When I asked about this his answer (presumably early in the table) was
"I'll bet 1 unit. If I lose, I bet one more. to see if the table will give it back".

One more had to do with unit size. Usually considering $5 or $25 units. For that
he often seemed to gravitate to the $5 bet.  Where I'm looking for some "income",
where he's living off this. With the speed these signals come, $5 doesn't do it.
We my impression seemed to be that the $5, again, was in more test mode.

He wasn't "all in" ($25 maybe?) till he saw he was in a good cycle. And it does
seem to me that cycles are how it works.

[RouletteGhost]

Im intrigued by this

If anyone tests it please post results

Its so simple and very often have 2 bets going at once

I tested briefly and had decent results

[mogul397]

I've been intrigued by this for decades.

But between not having a casino environment where I can graze tables
to find the "right one", and getting trapped by analytical thinking of
expecting some kind of HG with win results, rather than accepting an
ebb and flow idea,  I never got it to work.

And to be sure, every time I went for a paper test it would work.  And what
I remember about it is that it kept working. In other words, I was "on" and
if I came in the way I should have I would have cleaned up.
(That is looking for 2-3 don'ts, then a pass.)

Other times I could have looked for the > than 2-3 and same thing.

One thing for sure. The idea has staying power and will haunt you for
the rest of your life.

There was another piece of this.  It involved him seeing "how a table was rolling".
I bought this and went and watched.  Rolled dice on my living room floor. And to just
give some small example there was one time when I KNEW the next roll would be a craps.
I got my wife to show her.

She LESS than cared less).

I rolled the dice and it was a craps.  You can't write it down, but there is a "feel"
to results on any particular night.

[mogul397]

So lets talk about the "bleeping" method..

[1eleven]

Nice to see Mr. C mentioned here... I have his old Hot Roll Finder.

[Tomla021]

tested 60 spins and up 16 units

[bleep24]

Hi all,

"Bleeping method"    I`ve said it before and i`ll say it again - waiting for this to happen or not happen is just down to luck.  Yes you will win sometimes but is not consistent.  (I`ll get loads of posts saying they are using such and such way and it always wins. Tosh!!)  I am blowing my own trumpet here (for everyones benefit) nice little earner is just what it says and does what it says.  If no one wants to try it or post about it then it is just their hard luck.  Consider this series taken from Wm. Hill live play:     20 17 6 18 34 26 21 31 33 5 16 36 6 5 9 10 24 4 31 13 5 35 4 10 25 3 5 30 17 29 2 24 9 27 22 5 7 5    Waiting for any 2 E/C to become 3 this is how that series pans out:

3B 3L 3E 2R 3H 3O 2B 3R 2L 3E  3L 2R 3E 3B 3O 2L 3B 2L 3R 2L 3B 2E 2R  2O 3R 3L 3O    There were more winners than this but I only play once and let chain play out.  It does not take a rocket scientist to spot that there are not many losers and they are quickly followed by winners so no massive progressions or whatever.  This series is a typical one so you will not get into much trouble.  Give it a try.You won`t win enough for a 350ft. yacht but you will win enough for it to be worthwhile.  I only play this and one other way now as I find them to be pretty consistent. I`m off to USA shortly and have won enough to pay for it.



Good luck,    Brian

[Chrisbis]

@bleep24

Well done 
Have good trip, and I will have a look at this one whilst you fly! 

[mogul397]

Well I'm a little surprised that you earned enough to take a trip to the US.  Are you swimming?
More has to be done to protect our boarders.  "House advantage" has to mean more, cause it's
not working. Our "house" isn't protected.

In all seriousness, that would be a tall profit. I don't see it doing that or happening, unless some
progressions and large units are being used that you aren't specifying.

As you know, I am drawn to this approach. But it does get a little cloudy.

I have been playing with looking at 3 in a row. Tracking the wins and losses. I am thinking
that a good approach is to play the last of whichever happened. In other words if you got
a run of only 3, you bet next time for it to only be 3. If it was more than 3, then you bet
for a continuation. Thereby capturing clusters.

I've also been trying to track in in order, over all 3 props. Not sure if that is a good or bad
idea. Tracking them in order no matter which one hit last.  But it seems to have some
benefit.

Thoughts?

[bleep24]

Hello Mogul397,

If it  ain`t broken don`t try to fix it (The saying goes)   Everyone is entitled to do their own thing (tweak)  Why this works is because you are playing the 3 E/C`s and you can get whatever sticking at 2`s but because you are playing all 3 look at the example I posted yesterday.  It goes -  2 3 3 3 2 2 3 2 3 and so on so no great losses.  I play every opportunity to take advantage of this fact  (75% of numbers come out in chains) my only deviation being once I have won I stop playing that chain.  I sometimes use +1/-1 or 1,2,4 etc.  This is not as bad as it sounds because quite often there will be 2 or 3 opps. at the same time so if I have lost 1unit 3 times I will place 2units on next opp. if for example there is 2 opps. and sort of keep a running total but do not necessarily try to win back or win more at every spin, just winning overall.

I visted USA last year and previous year for 5 weeks each on my winnings so I must be doing something right.  (Only 2 people at cheapest time of year + car hire - free accommodation) plus I usually `make` about $1000 doing time share presentations for spending money. No I do not own a time share.
Good luck, Brian

[nottophammer]

interesting

[mogul397]

interesting

Bleep,
I'm with you. And you can't argue with success. I don't know why I say to gravitate toward
3 in a row. Because 3 in a row happen. Then, when you keep seeing 2 in a row, you divert back.

I don't know the statistics as you seem to, but one of my arguments here is that the results do
seem to come in streaks. So for 2 EC,s , if you see 2 in a row, then next time you see two, you would bet
for a doublet to happen. And if you see more than 2 in a row, you bet next time for more than 2.

Do I have what you're saying right here, or is it something else?

My next question is that you seem to imply using some kind of progression that is not rigid.
But a little more a matter of feel. And not to clobber the series and get back ahead, but grab
some back a little at a time. Say, after 3 one unit losses, you bet 2 units.  Am I on the right track?

Because I have looked at this line of playing for decades, and never found that sweet spot where I
could do something that I could count on. But you seem to.

Explain, or agree or disagree as you see fit. Thank

[mogul397]

interesting

I'm not sure what I'm looking at with these totals. They are very large
numbers for the number of spins. In that sense I would also say "interesting".
Can you describe it?

Cause I've done many runs with all 3 EC.s. I come out a little ahead or behind.
It does seem to even out between ECs and help keep you out of trouble.

What am I missing?

[mogul397]

Bleep

Is following streaks the answer?
Progressions?

Or how do you come to pay for trips?

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul397,

Yes you are on the right tracks but not regarding 2 E/C`s pattern.   The whole point of the exercise is to get around chains of 2`s.  I have  seen 2R 2R 2R 2R 2R 2Rand more of the same.   This is why we are playing ALL 3 E/C`s at same time when ANY of the E/C`s show as a 2 chain to become a chain of 3.     So - 2B (lose) 3O (win) 2B (lose) 3H (win) 2B (lose) 2R (lose) 3H (win) 3E (win) 2B (lose) 3L (win)    Can you see in this made up example that there were 2B   4 times which would lose but interleaved were other E/C`s which won negating the loss on the 2B.   I only play for a win on 2 becoming 3 and then stop playing that chain.  So - R R R (won) R R R - I could have played on and won another 3 times then lost once.  The reason that I do not play on is because keeping looking it can get a bit complicated  and there are generally plenty of opps. coming along all the time and if you have won on 3 and on 4 then you have to win on 5 or you might as well not have bothered.   The longer the chains the less frequency and I feel that overall doing this will probably work out about even.  But do what you want - it is not set in stone, just my way.  (Mogul - I would suggest that you re-read my posts on `nice little earner` (several times if necessary) to understand how it works but feel free to ask any questions (I think that perhaps English is not you`re first language and that is why I suggest re-reading or is it just my funny way of explaining it!!!