Nice little earner!!

[nottophammer]

Morning Bri
Just went over some old spins that are in  rng spins UK bookies, used corals Sandy 8.4.15, using +1/-1 and set a win of £7.00 in 1 hour.
Made the £7.00 in 20 spins, be about 10 minutes. What is your win target



cor,san 8.4.15
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[bleep24]

Morning Nottophammer,

I do not really have a target (just so that I am not disappointed)  Although I am semi-retired you would not believe how busy I am and how much time everything takes up so I usually manage to squeeze in about an hour a day and take what money that produces.  Yes `nice little earner` is just that.  Never had a loss with it:  won between £10 and £40 in an hour, so probably about £30 when I do get to play. 


Cheers and good luck.

[mogul397]

OK. 

Well first, English isn't my 2nd language.  As a matter of fact I live in New England and my
whole life I've vasillated between specific problems (my sister was a French major and I almost flunked French to get through high school. I always say that I have enough  problem with one language), and asshole who come around here from other parts of the country and make fun of my "boston accent" or I sound like "Ted Kennedy" (I probably do). And when in college and that happened I told them that "I'm from this area. I don't know anything else. So if you don't like it, go back where you came from".

But I have my share of reading these forums where I can't figure out what the heck people are saying between poor grammar and abreviations.

That said, I also am retired/semi retired. I will be 59 Sept 12th.  Please ask and I will send info about where to send gifts. I live in Franklin Mass.  3 exits down from the new "Plainridge" casino. I can go there in 15 min as easy as to Lowes, next door.  So this concept brings me closer to on the same page. I'd love to shoot down and pick up some units as a pastime. I have the time, and the access.

And I'm also on the same page with you on what you are saying. Thanks for giving me a quick and considerate answer. I appreciate it.

One question. At the beginning of this thread you say, "Anyway, some of you will have no doubt (I hope) read some of my previous posts regarding 2 E/C`s and 3 E/C`s."   And you tell me to read other stuff. Can you tell me where else you posted it?

Second question. I understand your explanation of 2EC in this post. That you play, again and again, for a string of 2EC to become a string of 3 EC, and you don't play for any longer string.  I  get that. But when I practice and look, I don't see any advantage. They even out. (No surprise).  So what, exactly do you state is your advantage?  Just playing the swing of the pendulum?  Suspend play after 1-2 losses?  That's the part I don't get And as I said before yes. You get fooled into thinking that waiting for 2 (or longer) EC, or JUST 2 or 3 EC is what to do. Because you play and see it happen. And as always
it changes back.

Thanks

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul397,

Them damned Yanks!!!     Actually I have been to Boston several times and thoroughly enjoyed it.   I have a friend who lives in Binghampton and he does not understand some of our British sayings or ways of saying things.   Sometimes my joking is completely lost on him so apologies for thinking that you may be foreign   -  you are!!!!

Anyway, all of my postings are on this forum.  Look under members and you should be able to find my postings (Bleep24)

As regards 2`s and 3`s chains.   Not quite sure if you mean they even out after hitting/winning on 3 or if you mean 2`s and 3`s overall.
All I can say is I am winning so what`s not to like about that. If you want any more clarification just ask or examples.
A member of my family (in England) was called Robert E. Lee - perhaps I`ve got some American blood in me.(Was he a Confederate?)

Cheers and good luck,   Brian

[mogul397]

As far as accents go, I have to mention that I was at my daughters in VT recently and
some people from Alabama (definite southern accent) came and in the flow of the
conversation various whimsical things were being said, and the silent conclusion
came out something like "there's no cure for your accent".  (Everyone else can be cured).
In this country somehow living in a different state can make you foreign.

As to my question, quite simply, is to say/ask if you are just betting just for a 3rd EC after
any two. And are flat winning.

The next question, to separate the issue, would be in the realm of "how much". How long it takes.
Unit size. Any of that.

The thing that I am saying is that it swings back and forth like a pendulum. And to carry the
thought one step further, "Mr C" did some ground work when playing in this direction. I tested it
and that evening out is what I seem to have found. And if you are right, I have bee spinning
my wheels for nothing for decades. And the laws of probability are skewed.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul397,

It is all friendly banter.   I am from the north-east of England (a Geordie as it is known) but I still have a strong Geordie accent despite having moved away 37 years ago.

As to your questions.   I play (usually) 1unit which in my terms is £1.00 (about one and a half $ at current exchange rate)  Yes I play any 2 E/C to become 3 but I do not play on after I have won that 3.    Reason is it can get quite chaotic - there could be 3 different E/C`s at the same time and as I only play Live on-line you only have about 20 seconds to work out what you are about to bet and to place those bets.  I make between 10 and 40 units per about 60 spins (about 1 hour)   depending on what comes out.    Most of the time I use prog. +1/-1 so lose 1unit - next bet 2units - lose   next bet 3units - win   next bet 2units - win  (would have won 2 units with this mini example)   It is not very often that you get 4 losses together so it is easily manageable.  Yes, if you flat bet it will even out because E/C`s are 50/50.chances but in like any roulette system if you use a MM you can win.  There are lots of hits playing 2 to become 3.  I have never lost on a session playing this though sometimes it has not won very much.(One thing I generally do is say you have lost 3 units - next 2 opportunities come out at same time next, I would put 2 units on each.  Both might win or just one, you have to adjust your next bets accordingly. I do not aways play to win say 6units on one bet, I would spread it over several and adjust units to take account of this on subsequent bets just aiming to keep unit sizes low.

Cheers.

[mogul397]

Good morning bleep.  ( Know you're 5 hours ahead of me).  My "knowledge" of England
comes from watching Downton Abbey (which I love). I looked up what you said.
It's called "tyneside"? Just saw a thing about Westminster abbey on TV and took note that
Europe has a lot of detail and tradition that doesn't exist in the mind of an American. My wife
is a history teacher, so I get an appreciation.

I like you and appreciate your friendly and helpful discussion and answers. Several things.

1) I don't play online. The table min here is typically $5 at best. So it's a consideration.
Of course nothing ventured, nothing gained (or lost) and if you win at least you have
something to show for it.

2)The +1/-1 is a D'alenbert progression.  I have to crack my head open and think about it's
implications. Used to think in that direction, but found that when the pendulum swung
against me I had a bunch of single wins and left, for example, with losses -1, -2,-3,-4
which equals -10 units. Another one (-5) leaves you -15 and is where you have to work back from.
The labby is there, of course.

3) I looked in my zumma book. Generally. It didn't take long for me to find 4+ losses in a row.
This, of course, was looking at 4 in a row.  I looked back at those previous posts and honestly
it looks (looked) like you were and have been flailing around to notice that how many you waited
(4, or 2....) didn't make any difference, so why not get the action from more betting ops?

So these are bullet points that I see. But the main one ends up being

4) I don't see how you can win 40 units in an hour from 60 spins. When waiting for
2ECs (and then the 3rd) which MAX would give you 20 betting opportunities. In a PERFECT
data set, with all wins. So I just don't see the reality. If you were saying you won 5 units per hour
or something it wouldn't even get my attention.  It all sounds unbelievable.

So I'm still looking for the "comfort level" to grab this by the horns. Between where the
D'alenbert can leave you and the win claims.


If you're up for it, can you post some actual play sessions?

If you do, I certainly will post anything that I see that might be
contrary from what I get. BTW, I have a generator that generates numbers.
Along with zumma. As a data source. (There are always real results, but
I'm just saying.

I'm trying to attach the generator so you can see it. It is good either way, but
I don't know how it will come through.

[mogul397]

BTW, hit "F9" on the generator to refresh a new set of data.

[mogul397]

I'm looking at a set that I just pulled up from the generator. Can't cut and paste it here, but
as you can see at least you can see the run length for each EC.  Here is what I see.


Black           Red               Odd            Even                Low          high

                                                         W
                                                                                               L (3)
                                        L (5)
                   L(6)
                                                                                               L(6)
                                                                                W
L(5)
                                      L(6)
                                                                                               L(3)
L(3)                                                   L(3)
                                                                                                                  W
                 W                                                           L(5)



Get my picture? It seems it is not uncommon to see this kind of thing.
Can't even maintain some level of normality.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul397,
Thanks for your kind words.  Yes it is called Tyneside.  Home of Newcastle Brown Ale which I love and can be bought in most popular destinations in US.    Are you preparing for thanksgiving:  I have been in US for last 2 Thanksgivings (Turkey dinner etc.)   The shopping was manic.  I think i`ll give that bit a miss this time.

Regards betting opps.   Do not forget that there are 6 E/C`s. so it is not like we are waiting for say 2R  then waiting again for say 2H  Look at your records and you will see sometimes 1 or 2 or 3 at same time this is how there are a lot more opps. per hour.  Yes I do not usually follow on after I have won a chain of 3, but if I did it would create even more opps.   I have just done a quick scan of 60 spins and found 60 x 2`s.
Weird!  I am very busy at the moment but will post a set of numbers in the next few days for you

Regards,  Brian.

[nottophammer]

Hi Bri and 397
Bri could you win with these, from corals

cor,b. 14.4.15
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[mogul397]

Hi Mogul397,
Thanks for your kind words.  Yes it is called Tyneside.  Home of Newcastle Brown Ale which I love and can be bought in most popular destinations in US.    Are you preparing for thanksgiving:  I have been in US for last 2 Thanksgivings (Turkey dinner etc.)   The shopping was manic.  I think i`ll give that bit a miss this time.

Regards betting opps.   Do not forget that there are 6 E/C`s. so it is not like we are waiting for say 2R  then waiting again for say 2H  Look at your records and you will see sometimes 1 or 2 or 3 at same time this is how there are a lot more opps. per hour.  Yes I do not usually follow on after I have won a chain of 3, but if I did it would create even more opps.   I have just done a quick scan of 60 spins and found 60 x 2`s.
Weird!  I am very busy at the moment but will post a set of numbers in the next few days for you

Regards,  Brian.

Hey Brian,

Thanksgiving will be kind of complicated this year. I expect to have an ankle fusion in October and am supposed to be still for 2 months. My daughter in law has a baby due about on Thanksgiving day.  So there are a lot of wild cards..

If I understand what you say about those results I can't believe it. That 60 results are ALL doublets.
And I will admit that I did my example about backwards calling the 3EC's loss. Lot more wins there.
But there doesn't seem to be any relative consistency.

I'll look forward to seeing some more results.

[mogul397]

Hey Brian,

Thanksgiving will be kind of complicated this year. I expect to have an ankle fusion in October and am supposed to be still for 2 months. My daughter in law has a baby due about on Thanksgiving day.  So there are a lot of wild cards..

If I understand what you say about those results I can't believe it. That 60 results are ALL doublets.
And I will admit that I did my example about backwards calling the 3EC's loss. Lot more wins there.
But there doesn't seem to be any relative consistency.

Ran half of it last night. Didn't look good. I still wonder if playing the last choice is
the BEST choice. In other words, if the last one was a double, play doubles, and
if >2 then play >2.

I'll look forward to seeing some more results.

[mogul397]

Hi Bri and 397
Bri could you win with these, from corals

cor,b. 14.4.15
25
24
2
30
18
26
35
35
33
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11

Can I suggest that if anyone is going to post results on this that you
format the numbers?  i.e. put in columbs of R/B  O/E   H/L ?

That is all the work.  Then, with columbs of X's you will see your own results.
Of course posting them so we can see them is appreciated.

[mogul397]

Hi Bri and 397
Bri could you win with these, from corals

cor,b. 14.4.15
25
24
2
30
18
26
35
35
33
1
2
20
14
3
28
3
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26
17
36
33
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0
24
15
29
34
1
3
36
26
23
13
11

I went through about half of it. A lot of doubles.