Nice little earner!!

[mogul397]

Hi mogul397,
I did a small test with RX and random numbers betting with last 64 spins stats every spin and after the intial tracking/collection I just did the NLE bets with the +1/-1 but only betting if hits for series 3 and 3+ were <=21 hits.  (19 would be safer)
Result was +24 units in 199 spins total (includes initial 64)

Betting only on 48 of the spins

I am sure I could have improved on that by having more bets if I had applied the same rules to the appearances of the series of '2 only' as well.

Still - it's quite interesting.

On a side note, would be nice and a lot easier to have some program or sheet that totted up the total hits for the series of 2 and series of 3 and above (for all 3 EC's) over a rolling 64 spin history -would save having to do manually after every spin which is a bit of a bind.

A.

BTW, I think that winning 24 units betting 48 spins is technically correct
for a D'alenbert. That is what the sequence does. As long as you don't bust.

[mogul397]

I wrote:
I played the same spin session of 199 spins through again and after spin 64 began to check for <=21 hits this time on the "2 only's" EC's to see what the outcome/profit would be...

Surprisingly there were NO bets indicated at all for the rest of the session! The 2's were doing very well so there was no imbalance trigger to bet. (In fact there was always 24 or more hits on the 2's from spin 64 onwards.)
This can happen. But had they dropped to 21 or below I would have been betting them though because I set that as my default trigger to bet for return to normal expectations.

However you do not know what is going to happen or how things will pan out, that's why I expect it will pay to bet both for the 2's and the 3's (with separate progression for each pattern, naturally) when the signs show it pertinent to do so. (ie. the default trigger you set)

A.

Looked at your results chart. Nice work and thanks for doing that.

I don't see where you are keeping track of the 2's and 3's on it though.

[atlantis]

Looked at your results chart. Nice work and thanks for doing that.

I don't see where you are keeping track of the 2's and 3's on it though.

Hi mogul397,

The results chart was produced by the RXtreme proggie. That's what I'm using to track the last 64 spins and also the occurrences of the 2's and 3's on a spin by spin basis. (hard work because you've got to flip through all 6 EC tabs in the RX stats to count 'em each time - phew!)
All I can tell you is that when a bet was made it was because there was 21 or less hits on the 3's at that time in the current 64 spins. If there was 22 or more hits of the 3's then no bet was placed...

A.

[RouletteGhost]

This question is for Bryan but anyone playing can answer

What is the most times in a row a 2 has not gone to a 3?

Like

B
B
R
B
B
R
B
B
R

Etc

[Blue_Angel]

This question is for Bryan but anyone playing can answer

What is the most times in a row a 2 has not gone to a 3?

Like

B
B
R
B
B
R
B
B
R

Etc

Theoretically all sequences of equal range have the same probability regardless of the order of the events.
So if red could hit 36 times in a row, the same could happen for this case too.

[RouletteGhost]

Right

Anything can happen

But theres limits. 36 reds will not happen in a row

So in average play of the average player who plays 40 spins with live dealer my question is in regards to that

Im not talking about the uncommons

Of course BBRBBRBBR can happen 30 times but it wont

[bleep24]

Hi guys,

No idea how many 2`s consecutively E/C`s is the norm.  I once had 15 blacks but I was playing RNG.  That is why I do not trust RNG.  It was several years ago so I do not know if RNG is more honest nowadays.  Also 10 zero`s in about 30 spins.  I started betting zero and never saw a one.

Just for the hell of it I went on Wm. Hill live tables spins today.  You can watch (in this case) 2 air-ball and 4 different normal tables at the same time.   2`s becoming 3`s (E/C`s) were happening on all  of the time.   I would estimate (using roulette players eye) that for every 2 staying a 2 then there were 2 becoming 3.      33% versus 66%. What I am saying is: stick with basic NLE and you will not go far wrong.  (No method is perfect and if you are looking for one that is you will still be looking when Nelson gets his eye back.
Good luck,       Brian

[Blue_Angel]

Hi guys,

No idea how many 2`s consecutively E/C`s is the norm.  I once had 15 blacks but I was playing RNG.  That is why I do not trust RNG.  It was several years ago so I do not know if RNG is more honest nowadays.  Also 10 zero`s in about 30 spins.  I started betting zero and never saw a one.

Just for the hell of it I went on Wm. Hill live tables spins today.  You can watch (in this case) 2 air-ball and 4 different normal tables at the same time.   2`s becoming 3`s (E/C`s) were happening on all  of the time.   I would estimate (using roulette players eye) that for every 2 staying a 2 then there were 2 becoming 3.      33% versus 66%. What I am saying is: stick with basic NLE and you will not go far wrong.  (No method is perfect and if you are looking for one that is you will still be looking when Nelson gets his eye back.
Good luck,       Brian

Who is Nelson? Nelson Madela??

[RouletteGhost]

(No method is perfect and if you are looking for one that is you will still be looking when Nelson gets his eye back.
Good luck,       Brian

Exactly

Its managing the losses that counts

Even AP players have losses

[mogul397]

This question is for Bryan but anyone playing can answer

What is the most times in a row a 2 has not gone to a 3?

Like

B
B
R
B
B
R
B
B
R

Etc

What's the answer?

[denzie]

This question is for Bryan but anyone playing can answer

What is the most times in a row a 2 has not gone to 3 ?

Why ?
As I remember it was 14 for me personally  (I looked at that in the past before )

[atlantis]

Hi bleep24,
I played a practice session today using my pre-tracking and imbalance trigger and on the r/b EC had a run of 8 consecutive 2's failing to become a 3. Then one did make a 3 but several more 2 only's promptly followed. You can get a good few units down if this happens and you're using a +1/-1. And this happened with my cautionary play too. So you never know.
I need to rethink it more. At the moment it appears to me that there may be no especial advantage or better security in changing from Brian's original NLE method.
If I played it for real I think I would use the original NLE way - far simpler and much less hassle.
SO - how to deal with the nemesis of this strategy; long strings of '2 only' that may occur?
It will be some achievement if we can crack that one! 

A.
 

[bleep24]

Admiral Horatio Nelson.  Commander of the British fleet at the battle of Trafalgar.   Lost his eye.   Nelson`s column in Trafalgar Square, London.   

[bleep24]

Hi Atlantis,
Were you just looking at R/B?   As you know NLE is looking at all 6 E/C possibilities to mitigate 2`s repeating and repeating.
Cheers,   
Brian

[Tomla021]

you just take the 50 unit loss it wont happen much, I have been playing win 10 units or lose the 50 units