Nice little earner!!

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

Just to let you know that I have been playing (and winning) with NLE.   3 to become 4 is what I am doing as this seems to be best in the long term.  I noted what you said about total units but I do not worry about that, what I am more concerned with is individual unit number.   1 2 3 4 5 maybe 15 units but the unit size is just 5 (in this example) which is whereabouts I like to be.

I have gone back to NLE as it is pretty stable whereas some of the ones I have been testing recently have been found wanting.   I do like devil`s streets/double streets and have been quite successful with that, though I did have one big loss (should have had a decent prog. sorted out for it) so my own fault.

Cheers,
Brian

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

Just to let you know that I have been playing (and winning) with NLE.   3 to become 4 is what I am doing as this seems to be best in the long term.  I noted what you said about total units but I do not worry about that, what I am more concerned with is individual unit number.   1 2 3 4 5 maybe 15 units but the unit size is just 5 (in this example) which is whereabouts I like to be.

I have gone back to NLE as it is pretty stable whereas some of the ones I have been testing recently have been found wanting.   I do like devil`s streets/double streets and have been quite successful with that, though I did have one big loss (should have had a decent prog. sorted out for it) so my own fault.

Cheers,
Brian

[mogul397]

Hi Mogul,

Just to let you know that I have been playing (and winning) with NLE.   3 to become 4 is what I am doing as this seems to be best in the long term.  I noted what you said about total units but I do not worry about that, what I am more concerned with is individual unit number.   1 2 3 4 5 maybe 15 units but the unit size is just 5 (in this example) which is whereabouts I like to be.

I have gone back to NLE as it is pretty stable whereas some of the ones I have been testing recently have been found wanting.   I do like devil`s streets/double streets and have been quite successful with that, though I did have one big loss (should have had a decent prog. sorted out for it) so my own fault.

Cheers,
Brian

I believe that NLE (or something very close) is the center of the universe.

It's funny that you have gravitated to the 3 becoming 4. I have no good opinion,
but I certainly have been tracking all of the various shorter term repeats.

But it is confusing to me where you mention that "5" is the place you like to be.
That's one that puts a bee in my bonnet (to wax poetic as you might. Get it?
Bee? Wax?)

Anyway, if I were entering a session obviously I would bet 1 unit. If I hit a winning
streak I would be collecting 1 unit wins till the pendulum would swing the other way
and you climb the progression ladder. And yes.  5 units might be a spot where you end up.
I can envision the pendulum swinging +/- 10 and you end uat -5 and swing back to 5.

Is that what you mean? where you end up? Or am I missing something?

[mogul397]

Also. Not for nothin'.

1 GBP is only $1. Not much of a high roller or earner.  When I'm talking
about just playing up to 5 units it's $75.  Not $15.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,
Hope that you have gotten` that bee outa your bonnet now!

What I should have said regarding 5 is that is the general area (average) where I often  am, though at 1 would be much better.  See next. Never went above 3.

Just had a storming session 3 becoming 4:     WWWWWWLLWWLWWWLLWWWLWLWLWWWWLLWWW        If only they were all like that!!

Good luck,     Brian

[bleep24]

Hi all,
Spurred on by a recent win of 3 becoming 4 (NLE2) I ventured into the muddy pool.  It again performed very well not going to more than 3 losses in a row with easily more than 50% of 3 chains becoming 4.  Using +1/-1.   Why did I not play this more instead of trying other systems with varied success (or more lack of it)

Will be putting this right.     Now where`s that Rolls Royce showroom?

Watch this space!!!

It costs nothing to test this system but may do you good.

Don`t you just love all sales blurb that says:     may   could   possibly    probably  etc.

Brian

[mogul397]

Hi Mogul,
Hope that you have gotten` that bee outa your bonnet now!

What I should have said regarding 5 is that is the general area (average) where I often  am, though at 1 would be much better.  See next. Never went above 3.

Just had a storming session 3 becoming 4:     WWWWWWLLWWLWWWLLWWWLWLWLWWWWLLWWW        If only they were all like that!!

Good luck,     Brian

Great.

What I honestly think happens while I'm watching is that in my head
I am looking at the 4-5 unit level bet as a bad place. A place
where it is BEGINNING to get bad.

My head is geared to wonder/hope that 5 units is max. My thinking/fear
is that I am going to keep going negative, which is not good. And then
wonder if/when I am going to come back.

Because the truth is that, if I end up staying around the 5 unit area,
I am in a bad place where all I am doing is waiting and fighting to
get out of a hole. Not counting my winnings. Or hoping I don't
continue to go south.

Other than the obvious stated reason, I have played with some EC
things where I might kind of stay even (for the reason of being able to
do this +/-1 thing), and ended up walking slowly to -5 or -6 and
just staying there.

How does this work out for you in actual play? It dilutes the point of playing.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,
Not sure where you are coming from.  For me going 1 2 3 4 5 is fine because it is not happening all the time and then it will go 5 4 3 2 1 so if I can stay in that general area then I am very happy.   Unit value is all relative.  If 1 unit = $5 then your winnings are proportionately more than mine where 1 unit = £1 but I am winning less - but less risked.  You pays your money and you takes your choice!!  or vice versa.

I am delighted that NLE2 is performing strongly and once I have the confidence will be upping the ante.

Are you recording W/L for this?    You should be able to see where it`s at.  Yes very very occasionally I was betting 10 units but that was on 2 becoming 3.  This `seems` more stable.  Time will tell (or some members will)

Don`t criticise the food until you have tasted it.

Cheers,     Brian

[mogul397]

I've certainly tasted it.

There are differences between unit size on several levels.

One is psychological.  It's WAY easier and more likely to play
and test at a lower money level. When creating and testing and
estabilishing limits.  You don't generally say, "I think I'll play a martingale,
cause in all probability I would get 10 losses in a row, so I'll buy in
for the $2400 I'll need".

The other is practical. If I go and try to play with $75, banked
at a $5 level and end up at the 5 unit bet, mentally I have a choice.
Or maybe NO choice. I play it, win, and skirt the cliff, or lose and bust.
Or I think quick and rebank up to 10 units. Which probably won't happen
cause of time between spins, availability of funds (not like I PLANNED,
and had the cash in my hand), etc.

And given that a 5 unit bet is very likely, it would be foolish for me
to limit my bank to a level where I would bust.

Much like the 1,3,9.

It's funny cause after reading a lot of posts by GLC once he tipped
his hand and said something about playin 10 cent tables.
That explained a lot.

There's another practical level to you and your play. You play
live tables online. That's pretty easy on the nerves. Takes a lot
of angst out of it.  Like anything there are levels. I go 15 min
down the road. But the changes in MY travel as casinos opened were:

1) Atlantic city. 8 hours (one day trip)
2) Foxwoods  2 1/2 hours.
3) Trin River   1/2 hour.
4) Plainridge.... 15 min.

There are PLENTY of people, many on this forum, where it is
a major investment of time and energy just to TRY a method for real.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,
Why don`t you open your own casino?     Will be very handy if you open it at yor gate.    Think of raking in all those punters losses and giving them dodgy systems to use.    Just have European wheels.   You will still make a fortune (and be very popular)

Well worth thinking about.  (Richard Branson will probably want to go into partnership with you, or even better, Donald Trump.)

Brian

[bleep24]

Hi again Mogul,

On a more serious note.  I have been playing 3 to become 4 to-night and it is doing seriously well.  Never went more than 3 losses before turning.

One run was of 11 odd.  Included was a 4 run of red and a 4 run of low but you know that I stop when 3 has become 4:  Aw shucks.

Brian.

(just been talking to my friend in Binghamton NY.  He has got a serious lot of snow and had 55" in December)   Makes living in England almost great.

[mogul397]

I also went and played tonight. I won $30. ($5 units)

Mostly with that method, but I didn't use any progressions. When I play
lately I am tracking different things and hopping in with the toolkit of
methods.  The 3 becoming 4 went well. It's a funny thing but as you look
and watch and see doubles, you realize you are just skipping them.

Even missed a couple.

Our winters have been unseasonably warm. I watch a program called
"ice road truckers" who drive on ice roads in Alaska when they freeze to
get placed that get no supplies until the road freezes for trucks to get there.
The last season there was a lot of complaining about the roads and thawing.
It was a flat winter here.

In my lifetime, at least as far as here in the northeast, I have seen the cycles
of snow and cold. We get one last ass kicking winter of snow and it drops off.
Seems to possibly follow the 11 year sunspot cycle, but I don't know. I just
know that I can remember how the winters change in predictable patterns.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,
Congrats. on your small win.

I have seen the `ice road truckers` here on TV in England.  Those guys are amazing.  I could not do their job.

I do not believe in `global warming`          I believe in climate change.        Has the fact that the population of the earth has increased dramatically over the last century got anything to do with it?    All those extra people driving vehicles.  All the extra factories needed to employ them.  All the extra energy needed for their light and heat.  All the extra traffic congestion.  The list goes on and on.    This is the true cause.   Ice melting is only a symptom.

Good luck,    Brian

[mogul397]

I agree with the climate change thing vs global warming.

But it is happening.  Hey, they show places that have or don't have
land from water rising and falling from years gone by.

"small win"?

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

`Small win`   Well you sure as  hell are not going to retire on it!! 

I am going to up my unit value because since starting to play 3 becoming 4 there are less opportunities to bet/win.  I am making a steady 10/12 units per hour from this but at my current unit value I feel like it is a slog, and I will not be retiring on it, mainly because I am already retired.     (Well semi-retired)    I need an excuse to get out of the house for some quiet.

Good luck,
Brian