Nice little earner!!

[mogul397]

Hi Mogul,

`Small win`   Well you sure as  hell are not going to retire on it!! 

I am going to up my unit value because since starting to play 3 becoming 4 there are less opportunities to bet/win.  I am making a steady 10/12 units per hour from this but at my current unit value I feel like it is a slog, and I will not be retiring on it, mainly because I am already retired.     (Well semi-retired)    I need an excuse to get out of the house for some quiet.

Good luck,
Brian

Well I'm with that 100%.  Of course the life long goal was to retire on it. And it took
till retirement for a casino to be close enough and me have a method and confidence.

I agree with the unit size. Like I said, win or lose, less than $5 isn't worth the trip or
time or excitement.

The think I like about the 3 becoming 4 is there is no overlap. It takes more
for it to happen.  10-12 units/hour is a good metric to know.

Don't bet on the superbowl. Patriots gonna lose. I live 10 miles from their
stadium, even though they are in Texas today.

[nottophammer]

Bleep just wondering why your looking at dd's and such like bets when NLE wins you so much, why not play your grail 

[bleep24]

Hi Notto,

I do still play NLE (3 becoming 4) and it is still winning for me.     You know the saying though:  `the grass is always greener on the other side`    In the case of roulette it is:` the HG is just around the corner` so I am always interested in trying other systems/methods to find out if that is true.  Sadly it is not and I inevitably return to NLE to make up what I have usually lost trying these other ways.  There`s no fool like and old fool.

Often these other ways seem very good for first few sessions and then all go `belly up`           Look at Ignatus.   He is winning 10/10 then next time you look it is 15/20 and then it is system aborted.

Well, I shall keep on looking (even Albert Einstein could not solve it) so I shall just live in hope and next time I am at the shops I will buy a bigger magnifying glass!!!

Good luck,    Brian

[DoctorSudoku]

Hi Brian,
A couple of questions just to be sure:

1. Your original NLE was 2 becoming 3. But nowadays you don't play that version -- instead, you play 3 becoming 4. Is that right?

2. The progression that you use is -1/+1 -- i.e. up 1 on a loss and down 1 on a win (basically, the d'Alembert progression). Is that right?

Thanks.

[bleep24]

Hi,

Yes that is correct. 3 becoming 4.   +1/-1 but I do `adjust` this if for example 2 or 3 opps. come at same time.   Mainly changed from 2 becoming 3 because it isn`t as easy to keep track of what`s going on.  Less opps. with 3 becoming 4 but I have increased my unit value to take account of this fact.

Brian

[bleep24]

Hi Doctor S,
Just thought I would show you a typical run.  Taken from Betway `Live` this morning.    75 spins.   +17      -14    End +16 units.

LW W/L LLWWLLWWLLLWWWLWW W/L WLWWLW W/L       (W/L   where 2 opps. on same spin)

-1 +2  +1/-1  -2-3+4+3-2-3+4+3-2-3-4+5+4+3-2+3+2 +1/-1 +2-1+2+1-1+2  +1/-1         So no great big stakes/DD and only betting mainly 1 opp. at a time.  It usually works at betting 1 - 5 units whereas 2 becoming 3 could get up to 9/10/11

[DoctorSudoku]

Brian,
I got it. Thank you  very much for taking the time out to give an example based on an actual L/W registry.

[bleep24]

Hi Doctor S,

Your`e welcome.    Here is another run (abridged details)    68 spins  11 W  8 L   End +5        There was a few losses towards end of session but I had to go out so could not play on to recover, but still a win.

This is easy to play and not very stressful and up to now I have not encountered any RFH.  I do not think that one is likely owing to the fact that we are playing over the 6 EC`s. and +1/-1 prog. means no massive stakes to lose.

Good luck,
Brian

[mogul397]

Hi Notto,

I do still play NLE (3 becoming 4) and it is still winning for me.     You know the saying though:  `the grass is always greener on the other side`    In the case of roulette it is:` the HG is just around the corner` so I am always interested in trying other systems/methods to find out if that is true.  Sadly it is not and I inevitably return to NLE to make up what I have usually lost trying these other ways.  There`s no fool like and old fool.

Often these other ways seem very good for first few sessions and then all go `belly up`           Look at Ignatus.   He is winning 10/10 then next time you look it is 15/20 and then it is system aborted.

Well, I shall keep on looking (even Albert Einstein could not solve it) so I shall just live in hope and next time I am at the shops I will buy a bigger magnifying glass!!!

Good luck,    Brian

The theory is that there might be something better. Easier, more profitable, safer. In principle,
even if you literally could pick the right number 34 out of 35 spins, you could always perfect it.

Ignatius MIGHT be an old fool.

[mogul397]

Hi,

Yes that is correct. 3 becoming 4.   +1/-1 but I do `adjust` this if for example 2 or 3 opps. come at same time.   Mainly changed from 2 becoming 3 because it isn`t as easy to keep track of what`s going on.  Less opps. with 3 becoming 4 but I have increased my unit value to take account of this fact.

Brian

High roller now? No more $1 betting?

[mogul397]

Hi Doctor S,
Just thought I would show you a typical run.  Taken from Betway `Live` this morning.    75 spins.   +17      -14    End +16 units.

LW W/L LLWWLLWWLLLWWWLWW W/L WLWWLW W/L       (W/L   where 2 opps. on same spin)

-1 +2  +1/-1  -2-3+4+3-2-3+4+3-2-3-4+5+4+3-2+3+2 +1/-1 +2-1+2+1-1+2  +1/-1         So no great big stakes/DD and only betting mainly 1 opp. at a time.  It usually works at betting 1 - 5 units whereas 2 becoming 3 could get up to 9/10/11

So the variant is less?

[mogul397]

Hi Doctor S,

Your`e welcome.    Here is another run (abridged details)    68 spins  11 W  8 L   End +5        There was a few losses towards end of session but I had to go out so could not play on to recover, but still a win.

This is easy to play and not very stressful and up to now I have not encountered any RFH.  I do not think that one is likely owing to the fact that we are playing over the 6 EC`s. and +1/-1 prog. means no massive stakes to lose.

Good luck,
Brian

+5 win is pretty much indicative of a flat bet win. No progression needed.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

I take it from your comment that you will be going down to the casino to-night and flat betting this?

Probably can be played flat bet but will not always come out in front though events should be about 50/50 so no great shakes.

Brian

[DoctorSudoku]

Brian,
The complicating factor in this is the fact that mogul plays in US casinos, so he won't have the "la partage" rule protection that you Brits enjoy in UK casinos (this is in addition to the fact that you have one zero to contend with whereas we have two zeros to deal with).

In fact, I suspect that in the past when mogul has said that he could not replicate your positive results with NLE may very well be because of the  (absence of) the " la partage" rule that mitigates the harmful effects of the 0.

The double zeros will hurt us much more than the single zero would hurt you.

[DoctorSudoku]

To summarize my above post:

In the US,
1. we have two zeros and
2. we do NOT have the la partage rule.

So, because of the above two reasons, our experience with all even chance methods (like the NLE) may be different from that of our UK brethren.