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[nottophammer]

Heres the ?

If you have a column with 100 cells of data, ask for the average of the data in said cells, should you collect another 100 cells of data, then ask for the average of 200 cells or could you add 1 cell and delete 1 cell, so a constant 100 cells.

How different is the avg of the 200 cells to the constant changing 100 cells likely to differ.

Which of the 2 columns would you use the 200  and growing all the time or the column that stays at 100 cells

[Chrisbis]

Well the average over the 100 cells is a static average calculated at a single entry point (the end of the data run in this case) whereas an average taken after collection of 100+1 cells and recalculate the average after dropping the very first cell is a dynamic average function of your cells, and show better and clearer the distribution movement of the data.
Very different results 

[6th-sense]

Heres the ?

If you have a column with 100 cells of data, ask for the average of the data in said cells, should you collect another 100 cells of data, then ask for the average of 200 cells or could you add 1 cell and delete 1 cell, so a constant 100 cells.

How different is the avg of the 200 cells to the constant changing 100 cells likely to differ.

Which of the 2 columns would you use the 200  and growing all the time or the column that stays at 100 cells

pretty interesting...i wonder if a rolling chart could be made to show how ec,s ds..etc would perform and if a system or anything could be made from it....or a larger law of the 3rd applied...or if cycles would apply on a larger scale

[Chrisbis]

Want Halfords or a bike shop for cycles Gordon 

[nottophammer]

Thanks Chris
your second reply made me laugh

[6th-sense]

Want Halfords or a bike shop for cycles Gordon 

lol made me chuckle too

[nottophammer]

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1.374    1.417  1.460   1.526   1.624  1.654  1.733   1.843  1.962  2.035   2.141   2.297   2.394    2.581    2.767   2.963  33.234

Reason why i asked about Avg is for use in GUT. As the non hit hit, we have less numbers to bet if unlike Winkel who up till now suggest wait for a crossing, but to me if you know roughly how many spins each group of numbers left could take to come in then theres a chance to bet.
The above is for the 11th number to hit of the 37 on the wheel or mat, next the 12th and so on.
So you see 11 underneath  is the total amount of spins of 879 games played, by this i mean seen it take 1,spin upto a max of 7 spins to hit,underneath this is the avg of the spins 1.374288965, so round up 2 spins.

So on the paper tracker i use we can see the trot, also in KTF(keep the Faith). From the 2 methods you see the trot, if you see say 11,12,13,14th hit consecutively, surely then the one hits are over due, now from above you see up to the 19th non hit, to be hit, its avg is 2spins.
Now over time after the 1st 10 spins the next 30 spins has produced on avg 15.78043231 non hit,to be hit, if you break that down to 5 hits in spins 11 to 20, 5 for 21 to 30 and 5 for 31 to spin 40, and say 11,12,13,14th non hit have just hit consecutively, then should you not now start to bet  the one hits to hit.
Or should one just for get Avg

[Chrisbis]

I think average would be something difficult to set up a betting method for because of variance.

The only thing I can a benefit of having it, would be a cluster of numbers coming in on an average form, if that happened consistently.
Say, for example, the 11th to the 14th unhit numbers came at the table/wheel in a cluster clump, and within a recognisable band of timings, then could one prepare a bet for them?

Over to you .......
Average tonight...isn't it??

[nottophammer]

From the spin record of just 3 sheets avg does not to bad
9   10   11   12   13   14
1    1     1     3     1     3

2    1     2     1     1     1

1    1     2     2     1     1

These spins all win in the bookies with progression   althou the 12   &   14   would have been max bet, so the old chad valley would be tightening up

[nottophammer]

pretty interesting...i wonder if a rolling chart could be made to show how ec,s ds..etc would perform and if a system or anything could be made from it....or a larger law of the 3rd applied...or if cycles would apply on a larger scale

? how large do cycles need to be. (Halfords must be getting excited)

[nottophammer]

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1.374    1.417  1.460   1.526   1.624  1.654  1.733   1.843  1.962  2.035   2.141   2.297   2.394    2.581    2.767   2.963  33.234

Reason why i asked about Avg is for use in GUT. As the non hit hit, we have less numbers to bet if unlike Winkel who up till now suggest wait for a crossing, but to me if you know roughly how many spins each group of numbers left could take to come in then theres a chance to bet.
The above is for the 11th number to hit of the 37 on the wheel or mat, next the 12th and so on.
So you see 11 underneath  is the total amount of spins of 879 games played, by this i mean seen it take 1,spin upto a max of 7 spins to hit,underneath this is the avg of the spins 1.374288965, so round up 2 spins.

So on the paper tracker i use we can see the trot, also in KTF(keep the Faith). From the 2 methods you see the trot, if you see say 11,12,13,14th hit consecutively, surely then the one hits are over due, now from above you see up to the 19th non hit, to be hit, its avg is 2spins.
Now over time after the 1st 10 spins the next 30 spins has produced on avg 15.78043231 non hit,to be hit, if you break that down to 5 hits in spins 11 to 20, 5 for 21 to 30 and 5 for 31 to spin 40, and say 11,12,13,14th non hit have just hit consecutively, then should you not now start to bet  the one hits to hit.
Or should one just for get Avg

The 27 should be 3.234

[nottophammer]

If you've sat and recorded 650 games, collecting how many spins it takes the 37 non hit to hit.
Lets look 9 non-hit (0x's)
We could bet the 9, 4 times flat bet,or bet +1 for 4 spins. Why +1 for 4 spins, playing 4 spins has won 70% of the 650 spins.
Is 70 % good enough.

[nottophammer]

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1.374    1.417  1.460   1.526   1.624  1.654  1.733   1.843  1.962  2.035   2.141   2.297   2.394    2.581    2.767   2.963  33.234

Reason why i asked about Avg is for use in GUT. As the non hit hit, we have less numbers to bet if unlike Winkel who up till now suggest wait for a crossing, but to me if you know roughly how many spins each group of numbers left could take to come in then theres a chance to bet.
The above is for the 11th number to hit of the 37 on the wheel or mat, next the 12th and so on.
So you see 11 underneath  is the total amount of spins of 879 games played, by this i mean seen it take 1,spin upto a max of 7 spins to hit,underneath this is the avg of the spins 1.374288965, so round up 2 spins.

So on the paper tracker i use we can see the trot, also in KTF(keep the Faith). From the 2 methods you see the trot, if you see say 11,12,13,14th hit consecutively, surely then the one hits are over due, now from above you see up to the 19th non hit, to be hit, its avg is 2spins.
Now over time after the 1st 10 spins the next 30 spins has produced on avg 15.78043231 non hit,to be hit, if you break that down to 5 hits in spins 11 to 20, 5 for 21 to 30 and 5 for 31 to spin 40, and say 11,12,13,14th non hit have just hit consecutively, then should you not now start to bet  the one hits to hit.
Or should one just for get Avg

See i've made some progress, must not of found countback,yet.