airball spins. please help

[RouletteGhost]

Hello,

Anyone have actual spins from airball

Roulette evolution, igt, Vegas star?

Id like to search for patterns....

Thank you

(i have about 20 airball machines local) 

Now knowing it's a type of rng I'd like to see if Theres a wheel sector pattern

[nottophammer]

Rg
have a sheet with boxes 10 to 36/37,record how many spins each of the 36/37numbers takes to come in, say over time you see the 14th number to be hit of the non hit is say 6spins and you can bet for 5 spins before reach max bet, would you wait see if the 13 one hit repeat for 2 spins ,then start to bet or go for it straight away as over your records its only ever gone 6 spins 2 times

[RouletteGhost]

Rg
have a sheet with boxes 10 to 36/37,record how many spins each of the 36/37numbers takes to come in, say over time you see the 14th number to be hit of the non hit is say 6spins and you can bet for 5 spins before reach max bet, would you wait see if the 13 one hit repeat for 2 spins ,then start to bet or go for it straight away as over your records its only ever gone 6 spins 2 times

thanks for the reply notto.....I do not follow though....I will read until I get what you have said

you are referring to airball?

[nottophammer]

Rg
when you arrive nothing has happened, so like in GUT the 1st spin you have 36 non hit and 1 hit, so say after 8 have hit, record how long each of the remaining take to hit. the 9th to hit could be 3 spins. next time you start from 36 non hit when it comes to the 9th to hit,it might be 1 spin. So over time the recorded 9th might look like this
  9 th    10th     11th ------------------------------------- 30th
3           1            1                                                     3 spins
1           1            2                                                     7 spins                                                 
1           4            1                                                     2 spins
1           2            1                                                     1 spin
2           1            1                                                     3 spins
1           1            1                                                     12 spins
     so after six sessions the avg for the 9th to hit is 1.5 spins,so round up to 2spins 
10th's avg is 1.66666 so round up to 2spins
30th's avg is 4.66666  so round up to 2spins   

Now when your at the air ball machine and your recording how the non hit are hitting you see the 9th has mised for 2 spins and so far your records show it never gone more than 3 spins so time to bet those 28 numbers, or wait and see if misses for 3 spins, then with the minimum stake place your bet                                                           

[RouletteGhost]

I see

I understand

very interesting

[nottophammer]

Ghost the 30th i meant round up to 5 spins

[nottophammer]

I post here as didn't want to encroach Mort's airball.
But i do wonder if you'd trust ef-bet airball as you'd see some funny spins to often, like 34,29,34,29,34  just 1 example, but see it happen often there.

The reason post, is 9/4/17 jackpot247 no recording, but today after 30 spins the #12 hits, now they make you wait to confirm #12, but for some reason the perfect spin, where #12 hits is now void, money is back in customers accounts, but the ?  is, why void this spin.
Was the payout going to be to big, as said rewatched the spin,cant see anything wrong, so why not honour the win.
Then exactly 10 spins later another void bet, again spin looks fine, but all bets repaid back.

does this happen else where,no explanation for the void

[maestro]

i would not trust it

[nottophammer]

I post here as didn't want to encroach Mort's airball.
But i do wonder if you'd trust ef-bet airball as you'd see some funny spins to often, like 34,29,34,29,34  just 1 example, but see it happen often there.

This is why players wonder if sites are cheating, jackpot247, 17/4/17, perhaps something to do with the date.
4
27
27 now look at the next part
1
22
27
27
22
1
23
does this really happen, whats the maths for that to happen, suppose its events and cycles

[nottophammer]

okay i'm not posting this in 75%, but
1st profit +4
KTF makes the +50 at spin 28
Flat bet remaining 8 non-hit +4, spin 71

[nottophammer]

now if you make spin 11 from previous sheet your spin 1, spin 11 1st profit +7
Theres still the 75% in 1-10
KTF +50 spin 20
flat last 8 remaining +28

[nottophammer]

So nothing is set in stone, to me the math is right, but the game does not play the math way, but will get you the answer in the end.

Here we see 10/10, but do you remmeber winkels reference points spins 13 could have 2 repeats, well here they are. All this is, is a learning curve, that you should have seen, think to your self spins 1-10 didn't repeat but we usually see those 10 repeat in spins 11-20, but its a decision you have to make.

1st profit, its there if you have a bank roll to keep going, like
KTF +50 spin 38
spins 11-40 gets the 15 non-it in 30 spins

If your going to try for a repeat after 20th spin where a number thats shown twice goes to 3 you'd bet 6,6,7,7,8,8 be -6, rebet the 8,8 now 9 and the -6 would be +5

[nottophammer]

Mortagons spins 14/5/17
So what can you see on there?

75% every block of 10 spins got a repeat
spins 51-60 did not get a number from spins 41-50, it took 13 spins for spins 41-50,to repeat, spin 63. All the previous 10 spins repeated in next 10 spins.
What does countback show for spins 39/40, (8,0x spins 1-10, add 15(15+8=23) so 23 non-hit could show, the average of 15.7 non-hit in spins 11-40. Ends 16,+1
What is average for non-hit to appear in 60 spins (30.5 could show) ends 29 0x#'s
RG what does that airball sheet show

You must learn to read the trot of the non-hit

[nottophammer]

todays #'s from mort,
For friends down under
Now if you are to just bet the previous 10 spins starting at spin 11. As said i'd wait, be waiting to see if spin 13 is still showing all uniques, if the repeat has not come i'd wait for spin 15, which is still all unique. Now you have two choices here, 1, just bet the previous 10 spins with whatever progression  you use, 2, bet all 15 unique as the repeat could come from those numbers building spins 11-20 theres the win with the #2.
Same idea for the group 11-20 to be bet after spin 25, but as you see comes early, #2, which by the way is a hottie, what usually happens after spin 20, a 2hit becomes a 3 hit.
What does countback show at spin 20, should/could have had 5 non-hit come, what are we 9,+4 so what is coming, repeats


Now lets go across the pond
RG, what does that sheet show, this is airball, just like the sheet is airball from jackpot 247, whats avg up to 19th, still remember there max to hit thou.
Good luck

[nottophammer]

But i do wonder if you'd trust ef-bet airball as you'd see some funny spins to often, like 34,29,34,29,34  just 1 example, but see it happen often there.

Well as we are sceptical of RNG and airball, what do you think of these spins on Jackpot 247, found this as updating avg doc.

47th spin leaves 7 non-hit to find, 60th spin could see 30 non-hit but thats already come, so with 10 repeats, that now gets close to the avg for 60 spins.
Spin 57 is the last of the 10 repeats and the next 6 spins are all non-hit.
Does that seem ifffy with the pockets nicely spread out, or you believe it would happen on a live wheel. On old RNG data not seen anything like it.