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[RMore]

OK - understood. Looking at CL 2 and 3 only makes sense.

But - Stitching? Are you avoiding answering this one more specifically because it will give too much away? Or am I just too dumb to understand you?

[praline]

No, you are not dumb.
I'm not very good in English,  and I'm not sure if I'm right. But I can say for sure that I have more knowledge then falkor, on this thread (sorry falkor). If you make a correct question,  I will try to answer it.

[RMore]

OK - thanks Praline. As I understand it the concept of "stitching" relates to putting together what would normally be considered separate bets to come up with a new betting odd. For example, a red/black combined with an odd/even. But this example doesn't really do anything interesting. Another example might be high/low combined with columns. But again, not that interesting. What is more interesting, and I assumed that this was what Pri was trying to get at (as I said before - could be wrong on that) is combining odds from 2 bets across 2 consecutive spins. Could this be CL1 and CL2 of a dozens cycle perhaps? But this would just be 2 separate bets. How do you "stitch" them so that there is a new odd in play?

Gotta go and play some Christmas music for an hour or so now so I'll be back later.

thanks.

[falkor2k15]

Cycle = pigeon hole principle = stitching bets
Add some statistics
Add VdW = always bet dominant
And at the end you can add some smart betting plan.
So we have.
Cycles+VDW+Statistics+BETTING PLAN = POSITIVE EXPECTATION GAME

Do we really need VdW though? How many of Pri's videos aren't using VdW?

[falkor2k15]

When you bet cycle,  you actually make:
Related to quads
Cl1 1 bet
Cl2 2 bets
Cl3 3 bets
Cl4 4 bets

But there's no sense to bet for cl4  and not "conciliable" cl1. (We just removed apples from pears)
Smart betting plan, must be created in relation to statistics.

But there's different ways of betting CL2/3 right? It could be done as a single bet even.

[falkor2k15]

OK - thanks Praline. As I understand it the concept of "stitching" relates to putting together what would normally be considered separate bets to come up with a new betting odd. For example, a red/black combined with an odd/even. But this example doesn't really do anything interesting. Another example might be high/low combined with columns. But again, not that interesting. What is more interesting, and I assumed that this was what Pri was trying to get at (as I said before - could be wrong on that) is combining odds from 2 bets across 2 consecutive spins. Could this be CL1 and CL2 of a dozens cycle perhaps? But this would just be 2 separate bets. How do you "stitch" them so that there is a new odd in play?

Gotta go and play some Christmas music for an hour or so now so I'll be back later.

thanks.

All I can think of is what I suggested before: "bet other dozens" followed by "bet last 2 dozens". Alternatively, spin 1 and spin 2 of the next cycle could each be "stitched" to the counterpart spins of the previous cycle to address some kind of horizontal and vertical matrix. However, I don't really see this as "stitching", but simply a sequence of individual dozen bets that results in exactly the same win/lose sequence patterns regardless of some spins being virtual or not. Again: it may appear that you are betting for an event (CL2), but really all that is happening is a sequence of 2 individual dozen bets/events.

[RMore]

Yep - precisely. That's my problem. I can't see any stitching going on and I do think this is key but just can't see how to do it in the context of this strategy.

[falkor2k15]

Yep - precisely. That's my problem. I can't see any stitching going on and I do think this is key but just can't see how to do it in the context of this strategy.

Are some of the "stitches" virtual?

[RMore]

Indeed, it is possible.

[stringbeanpc]

Ati - You are right and perfect. Now the follow up question that one should ask is we can clearly see there are imperfections here. Is there a potential for us to modify the bet sizes across these positions instead of 1 unit bet uniform to create an edge? I will let you ponder on that.

Priyanka,

I don't see that this question has been answered yet.

If you mean by "create an edge" with bets on Red Outside and straight up bets on Black Odd inside, then I would guess
that 8 units on Red and 1 Units on each Black Odd number would be what you want (total risk 16 Units)
(or any multiple of these numbers 16/2 24/3 etc)

Anyone can refer to the attached spreadsheet to experiment

Winning Spin   Net
Red              0
Black Odd       20
Black Even      -16
Green(0)      -12

[Priyanka]

I don't see that this question has been answered yet.

Thats a huge step in the right direction.

[3Nine]

Thanks, stringbeanpc.  I've been sharpening my Excel skills as of late so this should be helpful.

[3Nine]

[stringbeanpc]

3Nine, you are welcome, good luck with your excel skills..

so true about the path being a spiral, not a straight line.

I am enjoying the "learning path"

[falkor2k15]

Creating an edge? It looks like hedging bets; no? That red+black odd was only for 1 spin, right? Is that meant to be an example of stitching? And what is the purpose here?