Random Thoughts

[Scarface]

Hello .

Thanks for the test, Atlantis

Priyanka's message is that we would do better playing Non Random Systems rather than what we have been doing up until now, that is, Random Systems.

Let me show you in no uncertain terms, no ambiguities, and no riddles why we should be jumping all over this thread.

A Random System is what we all have played, such as, FTL (Follow The Last), Bet Black after 4 consecutive Reds, bet that a Pattern will form, etc.

A Non Random System is one based on Math or Statistics, ie, the Van de Waerden theorem, the Pigeon Hole Principle which the 12 spin Dozen cycle is based on.

I have tested a Random System (FTL) verses a Non Random System (12 spin Dozens cycle).

Both were tested with identical 3,170 spins from BVNZ table.

Both were tested Flat Betting of 1 unit each bet.

Both bet every spin until a Profit Target of 1.

See the results below.

Cheers

Nick

Would the law of a third qualify as a non random system? 

113
333
231
322
212
122
331 
213
323
133
131
221
132
312
122 Repeat
211
322 Repeat
332
322 Repeat
331 Repeat
121
312 Repeat
333 Repeat
122 Repeat
233
221 Repeat

Based on these 27 sets, there were 8 sets that repeated.  A third of the cycles should repeat out of 27, amiright? 

Take a look at the first repeat 122.  We're betting only the last spin of each cycle.  Looking at the prior spins, there is only 1 set that begins with 12, so bet the same on the last number which is a winner.

There has to be x amount of repeat cycles (8 or 9?).  There has to be a way to take advantage of this!

[3Nine]

I think one of the keys is knowing when to re-set.

[Tamino]

Methods come and methods go. No different    than what pops up from time to time.   Any BIG winners?

[Tomla021]

well Nathan Detroit --the creator Priyanka is doing a 3.0 win rate on the game associated with this forum after 800 spins

[Tamino]

I did see the 3 %   but it is lower now. . No impressed.   Another long time  roulette player is of the same opinion.

Just another  bet selection  like so many that pop up daily on the various fora  only to fade away.


ND



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[Tomla021]

actually its 3.08 now------i dont think they care if they impress you

[Tamino]

When I said Big Winners I mean  leaving with  accumulated winnings after a casino visit.

[Tomla021]

enjoy you a lot Nathan but Im not following your thoughts here at all....

[RayManZ]

I've almost figured out how the bets are made in the videos that had been posted. Maybe it could help us understand what Pri is doing and why?

You can see I succesfull bet is made in two part. First a large number bet, then a follow up bet but with less number. It's a kind of parlay. Using the winnings for the first bet to make a second bet.

Pri also uses virtual losses and wins in the video.

You can also see that cycles of 1 are completely ignored.

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Number Quad Cycle quad W/L Bet Why?
29 4
3 1
9 1 1 Bet 2 - 3 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
26 3 W Bet 1 - 3 We won our first bet. Now we bet the last two quads
27 3 3 W Bet 1 - 2 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
4 1 W Bet 1 - 3 We won our first bet. Now we bet the last two quads
27 3 3 W Bet 1 - 2 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
32 4 W Bet 3 - 4 We won our first bet. Now we bet the last two quads
18 2 L No bet We lost. Wait for a virtual win.
1 1 No bet
7 1 1 Bet 2 - 3 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
28 4 W No bet No bet. We wait for the virual win.
27 3 VL No bet Virtual loss.
24 3 3 Bet 1 - 2 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
5 1 W No bet No bet. We wait for the virual win.
7 1 1 VW Bet 2 - 3 - 4 Virtual Win. End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
28 4 W Bet 1 - 4 We had our virtual win. Now we bet again the last two quads.
2 1 1 W Bet 2 - 3 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
15 2 W Bet 1 - 2 We won our first bet. Now we bet the last two quads
31 4 L No bet We lost. Wait for a virtual win.
30 4 4 No bet ??? No ideal why we dont make a bet here…
14 2 VW No bet Virtual win.
29 4 4 VW Bet 1 - 2 - 3 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
31 4 4 L No bet Here we lost our bet. Now we wait for a virtual win.
36 4 4 No bet
35 4 4 No bet
5 1 No bet
11 2 No bet
20 3 No bet
23 3 3 No bet
23 3 3 No bet
1 1 No bet
9 1 1 No bet No bet. We wait for the virual win.
27 3 Bet 1 - 3 Virtual win. Bet all the other quads. This bet is still active.
19 3 3 W Bet 1 - 2 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
7 1 W Bet 1 - 3 We won our first bet. Now we bet the last two quads
15 2 L No bet Lost
10 2 2 Bet 1 - 3 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
16 2 2 L No bet Lost
12 2 2 No bet
10 2 2 No bet
4 1 No bet
26 3 No bet
16 2 2 No bet
15 2 2 No bet
22 3 No bet
31 4 No bet
25 3 3 No bet
9 1 Bet 2 - 4 Virtual win. Bet all the other quads. This bet is still active.
11 2 W Bet 1 - 2 - 3 Here we see a new trend. Our previous cycle was lenght of 3. Now we bet it will also be 3. Bet the 3 previous quads.
23 3 3 W Bet 1 - 2 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
25 3 3 L No bet
14 2 Bet 1 - 4 Here we switch bet. We now bet the two missing quads because we bet for a cycle of 3.
2 1 W Bet 1 - 2 - 3 Our previous cycle was lenght of 3. Now we bet it will also be 3. Bet the 3 previous quads.
5 1 1 W Bet 2 - 3 - 4 ??? Why bet? We did not have a virtual win here.
29 4 W Bet 2 - 3 We now bet the two missing quads because we bet for a cycle of 3.
20 3 W Bet 1 - 3 - 4 Our previous cycle was lenght of 3. Now we bet it will also be 3. Bet the 3 previous quads.
2 1 1 W Bet 2 - 3 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
24 3 W Bet 2 - 3 We now bet the two missing quads because we bet for a cycle of 3.
16 2 W Bet 1 - 2 - 3 Our previous cycle was lenght of 3. Now we bet it will also be 3. Bet the 3 previous quads.
12 2 2 W END



[button]

I've almost figured out how the bets are made in the videos that had been posted. Maybe it could help us understand what Pri is doing and why?

Didn't Priyanka write early in the thread that her play was not necessarily as per the videos?  The way she plays in the videos is detailed in other threads on this and other forums anyway, you just have to look for it.

She is trying to make you think for yourself, not copy a video that gives one way of playing.

[RayManZ]

I know, but i may help understand what Pri wants us to learn. If you understand the concept. How to use the cycles. How to use a betting plan.

Maybe by posting this someone sees a new light and shares it with us.

[Priyanka]

How to use the cycles. How to use a betting plan.

Well said

[rrbb]

Wow,
impressive work. I'm kind of new here and I found this to be a very, very interesting topic (Kudos to Priyanka!)

but i may help understand what Pri wants us to learn. If you understand the concept. How to use the cycles. How to use a betting plan.

Maybe by posting this someone sees a

You might want to add the number of unique numbers in the cycles. The betting scheme in the last section of your reversed engineered work then also becomes clear: "suddenly" a new bet is added... and a part of the "earlier" bet (consisting of two parts) also changed "suddenly"

As for the "bets" that make no sense: I did not look at the video (too much detail ;-)) but my guess is that some minor things got lost in translation.

Again impressive work RayManZ!

[Priyanka]

I'm kind of new here and I found this to be a very, very interesting topic (Kudos to Priyanka!)

You are most welcome and a very valuable advice there which am sure no one will ignore.

[3Nine]

You might want to add the number of unique numbers in the cycles. The betting scheme in the last section of your reversed engineered work then also becomes clear: "suddenly" a new bet is added... and a part of the "earlier" bet (consisting of two parts) also changed "suddenly"

You cannot make this comment without watching the video.