Random Thoughts

[Priyanka]

You cannot make this comment without watching the video.

3Nine - you might seriously want to take that advice in. Trust me.

[3Nine]

3Nine - you might seriously want to take that advice in. Trust me.

Clearly. It's just an odd thing to claim when it's technically impossible to note without seeing.  Thanks for your reply.

[3Nine]

I'm curious, do you use a tracker or do everything in your head?

[RayManZ]

You might want to add the number of unique numbers in the cycles. The betting scheme in the last section of your reversed engineered work then also becomes clear: "suddenly" a new bet is added... and a part of the "earlier" bet (consisting of two parts) also changed "suddenly"

What part are you talking about? I explained almost every bet? I also stated that the bet changes because the previous cycle was 3. Meaning it contains 3 unique quads.

Not sure what you are trying to say, but maybe it's because my understanding of english is not 100% at all times.

[rrbb]

I'm curious, do you use a tracker or do everything in your head?

Hi 3Nine,

No, I'm not using a tracker. If you know what you are looking for it is easy to see! What was the subject that Priyanka started these posts with??

grts rrbb

[rrbb]

What part are you talking about? I explained almost every bet? I also stated that the bet changes because the previous cycle was 3. Meaning it contains 3 unique quads.

Not sure what you are trying to say, but maybe it's because my understanding of english is not 100% at all times.

Hi RayManZ,

Yes indeed you explained it well indeed! Again, my respect!

But did you wonder why she suddenly changed the "betting scheme"? Was it random? Or was there a thought behind it?

You made a very good remark. Something like "notice she does not bet on a repeat on the first spin". This is true, but just write down the number of unique numbers in a cycle, and you will be able to observe 2 other things.

grts rrbb

By the way, I'm not trying to be clever or something. I just wanted to compliment you and make a small contribution. Hard work has to be rewarded!

[3Nine]

What part are you talking about? I explained almost every bet? I also stated that the bet changes because the previous cycle was 3. Meaning it contains 3 unique quads.

Not sure what you are trying to say, but maybe it's because my understanding of english is not 100% at all times.

Hi Ray,
It's not only Quads...

[rrbb]

Hi Ray,
It's not only Quads...

Hi 3Nine and Ray,

Indeed! It is not only quads! The betselection is also based on the first principle priyanka introduced. To answer 3nine's earlier question: in the nice worked out scheme of Ray you can quickly see the number of unique quads in a cycle! As i use cycles a long time, i do not need trackers...

because it makes no sense to bet on 4 unique quads, and because there is no bet on cycles of length 1 (as Ray observed) ...(you fill in the dots).

Is this a winning method? No, i do not think so. But it is an extremely clever showcase of how VdW (there you have it, i spilled the beans) can be applied. And as Ray indicated: it might just open a whole new way of selecting bets etc.

Grts rrbb

[falkor2k15]

I've almost figured out how the bets are made in the videos that had been posted. Maybe it could help us understand what Pri is doing and why?

You can see I succesfull bet is made in two part. First a large number bet, then a follow up bet but with less number. It's a kind of parlay. Using the winnings for the first bet to make a second bet.

Pri also uses virtual losses and wins in the video.

You can also see that cycles of 1 are completely ignored.

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Number Quad Cycle quad W/L Bet Why?
29 4
3 1
9 1 1 Bet 2 - 3 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
26 3 W Bet 1 - 3 We won our first bet. Now we bet the last two quads
27 3 3 W Bet 1 - 2 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
4 1 W Bet 1 - 3 We won our first bet. Now we bet the last two quads
27 3 3 W Bet 1 - 2 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
32 4 W Bet 3 - 4 We won our first bet. Now we bet the last two quads
18 2 L No bet We lost. Wait for a virtual win.
1 1 No bet
7 1 1 Bet 2 - 3 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
28 4 W No bet No bet. We wait for the virual win.
27 3 VL No bet Virtual loss.
24 3 3 Bet 1 - 2 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
5 1 W No bet No bet. We wait for the virual win.
7 1 1 VW Bet 2 - 3 - 4 Virtual Win. End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
28 4 W Bet 1 - 4 We had our virtual win. Now we bet again the last two quads.
2 1 1 W Bet 2 - 3 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
15 2 W Bet 1 - 2 We won our first bet. Now we bet the last two quads
31 4 L No bet We lost. Wait for a virtual win.
30 4 4 No bet ??? No ideal why we dont make a bet here…
14 2 VW No bet Virtual win.
29 4 4 VW Bet 1 - 2 - 3 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
31 4 4 L No bet Here we lost our bet. Now we wait for a virtual win.
36 4 4 No bet
35 4 4 No bet
5 1 No bet
11 2 No bet
20 3 No bet
23 3 3 No bet
23 3 3 No bet
1 1 No bet
9 1 1 No bet No bet. We wait for the virual win.
27 3 Bet 1 - 3 Virtual win. Bet all the other quads. This bet is still active.
19 3 3 W Bet 1 - 2 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
7 1 W Bet 1 - 3 We won our first bet. Now we bet the last two quads
15 2 L No bet Lost
10 2 2 Bet 1 - 3 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
16 2 2 L No bet Lost
12 2 2 No bet
10 2 2 No bet
4 1 No bet
26 3 No bet
16 2 2 No bet
15 2 2 No bet
22 3 No bet
31 4 No bet
25 3 3 No bet
9 1 Bet 2 - 4 Virtual win. Bet all the other quads. This bet is still active.
11 2 W Bet 1 - 2 - 3 Here we see a new trend. Our previous cycle was lenght of 3. Now we bet it will also be 3. Bet the 3 previous quads.
23 3 3 W Bet 1 - 2 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
25 3 3 L No bet
14 2 Bet 1 - 4 Here we switch bet. We now bet the two missing quads because we bet for a cycle of 3.
2 1 W Bet 1 - 2 - 3 Our previous cycle was lenght of 3. Now we bet it will also be 3. Bet the 3 previous quads.
5 1 1 W Bet 2 - 3 - 4 ??? Why bet? We did not have a virtual win here.
29 4 W Bet 2 - 3 We now bet the two missing quads because we bet for a cycle of 3.
20 3 W Bet 1 - 3 - 4 Our previous cycle was lenght of 3. Now we bet it will also be 3. Bet the 3 previous quads.
2 1 1 W Bet 2 - 3 - 4 End of cycle: Bet all the other quads
24 3 W Bet 2 - 3 We now bet the two missing quads because we bet for a cycle of 3.
16 2 W Bet 1 - 2 - 3 Our previous cycle was lenght of 3. Now we bet it will also be 3. Bet the 3 previous quads.
12 2 2 W END



How did you manage to figure all that out!?  Can you explain why she is waiting for virtual wins or losses - what is the trigger for that and how does it seem to work exactly...? Lastly, how is this system betting on non-random? It just looks like she's betting on specific quads based on the result of the previous cycle with an extra "parlay" bet as you put it.

[Scarface]

Does this system really have an edge, or just a unique way of betting?

[RayManZ]

But did you wonder why she suddenly changed the "betting scheme"? Was it random? Or was there a thought behind it?

I did wonder about this at first, but i know understand why the bet changed. Maybe we could apply the same principle to Double streets too? Or even 6 sectors based on the wheel layout.

[3Nine]

Hi 3Nine,

No, I'm not using a tracker. If you know what you are looking for it is easy to see! What was the subject that Priyanka started these posts with??

grts rrbb

The tracker question was for Priyanka. Thanks though.

[Priyanka]

The tracker question was for Priyanka. Thanks though.

Same here. Initially I needed pen and paper but not anymore. It is quite easy once you have grasped it.

[atlantis]

Second Test of 3000 spins from random.org.

Again - the longest losing run is 3. It's doesn't seem too bad for a double dozen idea...

A.

[3Nine]

Same here. Initially I needed pen and paper but not anymore. It is quite easy once you have grasped it.

Ok, cool. The cycles are natural to me now bit VdW, not so much.