Random Thoughts

[Scarface]

Hi scarface,

This can best be visualized by a "tree"

You start at the top with the first spin.

You have two possibilities for the next spin:
1.  A repeat. Out of 3 possible dozens you can only pick one (the first spin)-> 1/3 this ends our spincycle of length one!

2. No repeat. Out of 3 possibilities you can choose from 2 (no repeat of the first spin)-> 2/3.

For the next spin we again have 2 possibilities
A. A repeat. Now we have 2 possibilities to choose from (2/3).  But remember: to reach this point, we first had to choose the second spin to be no repeat!

The total probability of a repeat on the second spin equals 2/3 x 2/3, which equals 4/9.

So yes, your calculation is correct!

Thank you for making this look so simple!  I was wondering where Pri got her statistic of 62%   

[Turner]

Hope thats not a tongue-in-cheek

Nooo....not tongue in cheek

[3Nine]

If not there is many more to come.. Already rrbb is giving away a lot....   

More goodies, please

[ati]

Some interesting thoughts from rrbb there. 
rrbb gave you the mathematical explanation in a very simple manner. For some however data speaks. Attached is what will give you a data view for cycles in dozens, quads and lines.

Thank you

[NextYear]

I've tried to read this before without much understanding.

I'll try to use this new information and read it again and understand something.

See you next year... 

[rrbb]

I've tried to read this before without much understanding.

I'll try to use this new information and read it again and understand something.

See you next year... 

Hi Nextyear,
Sounds like a good proposal!

[Drazen]

Please note: I do not claim to know exactly what Priyanka is doing, but the principles she is talking about are extremely versatile.

Thank you for your extra pushes rrbb. We really appreciate that.

So you are using same principles Priyanka is talking about, but without knowing what exactly Priyanka is doing here, and I presume you are equally successful with those principles?

Did I got this right? 

Best

Drazen

[rrbb]

Thank you for your extra pushes rrbb. We really appreciate that.

So you are using same principles Priyanka is talking about, but without knowing what exactly Priyanka is doing here, and I presume you are equally successful with those principles?

Did I got this right? 

Best

Drazen

Hi Drazen,

Sorry i will not answer all your questions!

Reason? All of the people on this site have a reason to be here. Some dream of riches, others like the interaction etc. I like to believe that most, if not all, would, in the middle ages, all be searchers for the philosophers stone.

This stone could turn lead into gold (in our case, bits into gold, or plastic into gold).

The search however led to a total transformation of the searcher, hence philosophers stone.

The authority of deciding if it is a futile search or not, lies with one person: you. What are your motives? What do you believe? Why?

The reason for me to start posting (only on this thread) is that i hold Priyanka in high esteem.

The transformational part in this search is to get rid of false hopes, lazyness, unreasonable believes, shady ulterior motives, conformism... That my friend is the only path, and that is exactly what Priyanka is proposing.

Grts rrbb

[Herby]

Maybe minor interest for all:
To test my understanding of the cycles I did a "quick and dirty programming".
Not Excel, other programming language, same data as in Cycles.xls.
Results for Dozens almost the same:
5273 Cycles, 3311 same as previous, 1961 different instead 1962 (sure my fault  )
greets

[falkor2k15]

Has Princess Priyanka become defiant against the establishment? I hope she doesn't get assassinated for revealing all this information... look what happened to Prince. The spreadsheet looks quite useful - thanks! 

[Priyanka]

The authority of deciding if it is a futile search or not, lies with one person: you. What are your motives? What do you believe? Why

I like that one rrbb.  On a lighter note.  Interesting user name. Why is it named like that?

[Priyanka]

Maybe minor interest for all

Not at all. That's the major thing that I have been trying to explain. Whether you do it, I do it or anyone else does it, it is a constant. 

[falkor2k15]

In Priyanka's spreadsheet, contrary to the dozens, the lines have a greater chance of repeating the same cycle instead of a different one - but this percentage is below 63% - so why does Priyanka prefer lines over dozens?

Edit: it's actually the QUADS that are better to play the same cycle as previous - but the lines percentage on being different is still lesser than dozens.

[rrbb]

In Priyanka's spreadsheet, contrary to the dozens, the lines have a greater chance of repeating the same cycle instead of a different one - but this percentage is below 63% - so why does Priyanka prefer lines over dozens?

Edit: it's actually the QUADS that are better to play the same cycle as previous - but the lines percentage on being different is still lesser than dozens.

Hi Falkor2k15,

And what about halves? Etc?

but let's assume that you found the optimal one. How would you benefit from it?

On the first three pages of this thread you and Priyanka had an interesting discussion. Could that be of any relevance?

Grts rrbb

[rrbb]

I like that one rrbb.  On a lighter note.  Interesting user name. Why is it named like that?

Good question! I totally and utterly detest the color partitioning in roulette, but then again: i tend to repeat myself a lot.