Random Thoughts

[3Nine]

Steve, you can capture my bets if you want, I have nothing to hide. I think on rouletteplayers.org it is not real spins, it looks like some sort of strange rng or prng or who knows, but it not behave like real wheel.

Priyanka, do you see any difference in your testing with live vs RNG? 

[maestro]

just cannot belive it what this topic was dedicated to and where went to.....

[3Nine]

just cannot belive it what this topic was dedicated to and where went to.....

It was bound to happen... Like those events in the earlier discussions

[Steve]

Mumbo the only times it has been rng is when the server was updated and i forgot to upload spins, or before the changes that allow use of uploaded spins. I take the spins straight from a mysql database with spins from my players. Eventually Im going to run out so will need another solution. Its exactly as I say it is. I have no reason to do differently.

The topic is headed the right direction, Towards the truth.

[INTERCEPTOR]

Let say you are right, but I saw one number repeated 5 times in 20 spins too many times, today it was 17, before it was 31, then 36, 25, every day I saw this, or I am just too lucky to see this things 

[Steve]

Ill put something in perspective.

Because of unlimited bankroll among other reasons, bankroll is a very poor indicator of a systems success. There are other players with large bankrolls but poor results. What matters is win rate, amount of spins, and amount bet. You need ALL THREE values to be high for a good rank. Or just a very high value for one or two.

In Priyankas case, as anyone online could see, earlier on she had big wins in relatively few spins. That success would be easily replicated and can easily be luck. Then later bets were smaller because the amount bet didnt change much.

To replicate her results, you would need only good luck in the short term with larger bets. This gives a high win rate. And then you can play a lot of spins later with smaller bets to build your "spins played" value. This way your win rate would barely move, but your rank would continue to climb.

But some people are quick to believe the win rate is everything. You need to consider her amount bet is around 15% of players with comparable rank.

No disrespect to priyanka, but the results dont tell us much yet.

Mumbo if you see unusual sequences, send them to me and ill check the database. I know at least if you have multiple browser windows logged on there can be similar anomalies. If there are no such errors, the spins are what they are from the mysql database. Exploit them if you think youve found a pattern. The software probably still has issues we havent yet found. So report what you find.

[Nickmsi]

"Priyankas system appears to relate around RBR sequences. I have seen no evidence any such sequence can beat roulette. If someone has any proof otherwise, show me just one sequence to prove the point."

Steve, this is exactly the point. 

YOU have not seen any evidence relating to RBR sequences that can beat roulette.

The General and all his PHD math buddies have not seen any evidence either.

However, Priyanka, myself and others have seen the evidence.

So it boils down to this. The only way we can prove it:

1. Give you the system, not likely or

2. You and anyone else can figure it out by reading this thread and doing the work.

Again, this is the point of this thread. To show that there are NON RANDOM ways, other than Physics, to beat roulette.

Cheers
Nick

[INTERCEPTOR]

I also think Priyanka is too lucky because of this anomalies and your database is mixing numbers with several database I think (?), so Priyanka have no chance on real wheel to play the same way, and if I wrong, I want to play 100 000 spins and hope Priyanka too and several others just to be sure who is right here.

[maestro]

quad 0,1,2,3 cannot be bet...thanks

[NextYear]

YOU have not seen any evidence relating to RBR sequences that can beat roulette.
The General and all his PHD math buddies have not seen any evidence either.

However, Priyanka, myself and others have seen the evidence.

Thank you for this, Nick!

[Priyanka]

Priyanka is too lucky

Thankfully!!!  Who wouldn't want to be

[Bayes]

However, Priyanka, myself and others have seen the evidence.

In my experience, it's almost impossible to maintain a flat bet advantage, but it's really not that difficult to reduce the variance consistently to the point where it doesn't matter if you don't have it. And surely that's all that matters? Money management will take care of the rest. I'm still a "loser" as far as the maths is concerned, but who cares?

Anyway, my earlier comments weren't intended to be critical of Priyanka, quite the contrary.

[Steve]

Nick, if you have the RBR hg, good on you. You must have made millions. Am I right? If no, why not? You say youve seen the evidence, but the claims that are made public are just not consistent. With the free software I released, you can test for billions of RB combinations and not find patterns.

Mumbo, again send me details of anomalies you suspect. Ive checked spins manually and see some odd sequences but they are all within normal. You see a higher volume of spins in the game than real life, so youll encounter them more often. If you play 100 spins in a day, the chances are youll see groups of repeats. I dont know why you doubt the numbers. They are just whatever they are. There is no motive for me to do anything but what Ive said. When I run out of real spins I will make it known. Its still possible my players uploaded fake spins to test but i avoided using profiles more likely to do that.

[Tamino]

I say Priyanka  will have no problem with a live wheel either.

Therefore Priyanka HAPPY WINNINGS  where ever you play.


Tamino aka Nathan Detroit

[Nickmsi]

Steve,

Your assumption is wrong.

We are not playing for Patterns.

Pattern based systems do not work. They are random systems.

We are playing for a Non Random event, ie, something that HAS TO HAPPEN.

What HAS TO HAPPEN?

A math theorem HAS TO HAPPEN.

This thread explores the Van de Waerden theorem and the Pigeon Hole principles.

A math theorem is a Non Random event, it is something that has to happen, just like 1 + 2 HAS TO EQUAL 3.

No patterns.

cheers

Nick