Random Thoughts

[ati]

just cannot belive it what this topic was dedicated to and where went to.....

Just wait until RG sees the possibility of the next HG in this thread and jumps on it. 

[falkor2k15]

It seems my prediction was correct: this thread does seem to be turning a bit hostile with some signs of jealousy...? 

When are we likely to return to the discussion of Non-Random? 

[Tomla021]

a new thread can be started with key highlights.....

[falkor2k15]

a new thread can be started with key highlights.....

I'll do it this weekend, as I think it's worth exploring further... but you guys need to chip in too on your understanding of certain concepts, like "constants" - I don't know what the hell they are talking about there! 

[The General]

To start with let us assume that there is no edge

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If neither house or the player have the edge, then all that remains is variance. 
Variance = luck.
And unfortunately you can't predict luck and you can't use luck to increase the accuracy of your predictions.
Luck runs out.

When are we likely to return to the discussion of Non-Random?

If you want to beat this game in the long run, then you need to focus on the non randomness of the wheel, not the game.

Just wait until RG sees the possibility of the next HG in this thread and jumps on it. 

No, I suspect that it will return to systems that attempt to win based on non hit numbers double streets and other foolish nonsense like that, rather than trying to exploit the wheel.

However, Priyanka, myself and others have seen the evidence.

Let's see the evidence.  Perhaps we can take a look at Priyanka betting history and outcomes on the multiplayer so we can see some proof? 

[Drazen]

Let's see the evidence.  Perhaps we can take a look at Priyanka betting history

What about Priyankas whole year withdrawals from BV?

You think its fake?

[The General]

What about Priyankas whole year withdrawals from BV?

You think its fake?

What about them?  Are they supposed to be statistically relevant?  I don't know anything about them. 

[Priyanka]

Friday evening. Am going to drink in the name of global peace. Are you?

[Tomla021]

have a few for me also---I will join in later

[777]

For global peace and luck, Ill drink to that!

[Nickmsi]

"If you want to beat this game in the long run, then you need to focus on the non randomness of the wheel, not the game"

General, you are correct in that we have to focus on the non randomness but not only of the wheel but of the game itself.

As I see it, there are 3 ways to play roulette:

1. Randomly, ie, wait for 3 R then bet Black, form a pattern, etc.  All bound to lose
2. Non Random Physics, find an anomaly in the wheel and bet accordingly.
3. Non Random Numbers, (Math and Statistics) this is the 3rd way which most are unaware and the whole point of this thread.

Non Random Numbers means we play the game knowing that numbers have to behave according to Proven Number Theories, ie Arithmetic.

No guessing.  Numbers have to do certain things ALL THE TIME.  Without a Doubt.  It has to happen.

Let me give you an example.

The Van de Waerden Theorem.  A legitimate mathematical theory that you can post on your "Math Forums" and they will concur.

As it pertains to roulette, the VDW(Van de Waerden) says that in every 9 spins you will ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS (discounting the zero for now) have an Arithmetic Progression.

This is known and this is proven.

We play each spin looking to see if an AP(Arithmetic Progression) has been formed.

This is what we look for.  This is not random.  This is a specific mathematical way to play the game. This is Non Random.

Hope this helps.
Cheers
Nick

[atlantis]

Non Random Numbers means we play the game knowing that numbers have to behave according to Proven Number Theories, ie Arithmetic.

No guessing.  Numbers have to do certain things ALL THE TIME.  Without a Doubt.  It has to happen.

I am in agreement here with Nickmsi.

Other names for "non-random" would be: methodical; planned; definite; specific and ermm... systematic.

A.

[The General]

General, you are correct in that we have to focus on the non randomness but not only of the wheel but of the game itself.

Nickmsi,

Ignore the layout and forget the game.  Both are a fools folly.  Recorded history, math, all prove this much.    The "game" is merely a distraction for ordinary gamblers. 

The number theories are also a dead end.  They prove that the "game" can not be beaten, not the other way around.  The  number "theories" will not help you exploit the non random nature of the game.

Focus only on the wheel.

[psimoes]

As it pertains to roulette, the VDW(Van de Waerden) says that in every 9 spins you will ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS (discounting the zero for now) have an Arithmetic Progression.

Isn´t that because it´s about a specific number of colours contained in a specific number of spins? Add blue and yellow to the red and black and there goes the arithmetic progression, or you´ll have to a) increase the number of spins; or b) change the rules. It´s not a "property of random" as I see it.

[NextYear]

Friday evening. Am going to drink in the name of global peace.

Good idea, I'll follow!