Random Thoughts

[Priyanka]

Creating an edge? It looks like hedging bets; no? That red+black odd was only for 1 spin, right? Is that meant to be an example of stitching? And what is the purpose here?

It is hedging. And it is an example. There is no edge in the method below, it is only an example in the right direction about stitching together bets. The example in the excel will lead to no edge if we remove zero from the equation and house edge if we consider zero into the equation.

Winning Spin   Net
Red              0               - 18 possibilities
Black Odd       20          - 8 possibilities
Black Even      -16         - 10 possibilities

18x0  + 20x8  -16x10  gives us 0.

However this is the line in which the thought process for stitching bets can progress as we look for options to bet less than 12 numbers with odds of dozen, less than 18 numbers with odds of even chance and so on.

[maestro]

example of stiching bets is....high +13,14,15,16,17,18......or low and 19,20,21,22,23,24

[maestro]

just above post was educated guess

[maestro]

mumbi do you still play steves game...lol

[maestro]

@turner...turner my son smashed me on chess today...is only 8...so i am having few drinks now...

[3Nine]

@turner...turner my son smashed me on chess today...is only 8...so i am having few drinks now...

@maestro, do you also play Go!?

[maestro]

had a friend of mine he did try to explain it to me and we had 17X17 board to play but we got drank in way we were doing it so thats about it...but is soooo complex game even it lokes stones and pockets only

[falkor2k15]

So let's say we were expecting Dozens CL2... rather than bet the last 2 dozens:
Win: + 1
Lose: - 2

...we should instead "parachute" to a different playing position and hedge our bets so that we get:
Win: ++
Lose: 0

?

[ati]

It's good that stitching has come up again in the discussion. The other day I was thinking that maybe I got the below quote wrong, and it's not creating different odds, but each of the four EC combinations should be considered as a quad.

While playing quads I have realised that 1-9, 10-18, 19-27, 28-36 forms quads in terms of spins. But the other way to make quads is by combining results of two spins. Like combining Two ECs like Low(1-18) and high numbers(19-36). The combinations are LL, HH, LH and HL.

1-9      Q1
10-18  Q2
19-27  Q3
28-39  Q4

LL
LH
HL
HH

Four different number combinations, and four different EC combinations. So if the last two spins resulted LL that could be EC quad 1, if LH then EC quad 2, etc.

However this is not how Priyanka originally explained the stitching, and I was not able to figure out how this could be playable, because we would have to bet both H and L, which is obviously doesn't make sense.

[falkor2k15]

It would be nice if somebody could please go through Pri's videos and list which concepts are being used in each one, i.e. VDW (or not), stitching, parallel game:
link:s://:.youtube.com/channel/UCwzTwEVwnraYoM356gp4n7g

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[Herby]

Hi Falkor,
to shortcut this work you could post the raw data (numbers,bets,result) as Exel sheets from the videos you already analyzed so far. I can import this data to Mathematica and analyze further.
Greets

[praline]

forget about videos, use concepts from first sixpages of this thread.
How can you combine cycles, repeats and "conflict of interrests" ??

[praline]

I think that the game "sudoku" is something very similar to (at least one) Pri`s methods.

[Herby]

I think that the game "sudoku" is something very similar to (at least one) Pri`s methods.

Maybe you give us a link to this method you are referring.
TNX

[falkor2k15]

Here's my new sub-project for Christmas... I am going to try to monitor different types of dozen repeats individually (and simultaneously where possible) to see if the first repeat situation ever improves in terms of:
*Cost via standard progression
*Number of placed bets

I'm not actually aware of any other way of testing first repeat potential - but welcome ideas?

So we start the test with regular dozens within regular cycles. Out of 500 cycles the worst set looked like this:


So the first repeat took 8 placed bets comprising 4 x single dozen bets coupled with 4 x double dozen (max possible per spin!) bets, but we would need a progressions calculator to figure out the cost of that set and whether it reached table limits, etc.

That was only 1,000 spins, but for 1 million spins it will defo hit the table limits. But the question is: does the situation improve the more repeats and types of repeats we monitor simultaneously ala sudoku or simultaneous equations?

End goal: if the situation does improve then we could look at converting to a positive progression or finding ways of parachuting to different playing positions.