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RouletteGhost · Mar 17, 12:05 PM 2017

Not trying to me mean

Just trying to get that wake up call across

falkor2k15 · Mar 17, 12:21 PM 2017

Guys, I've spent a lot of time and money testing these techniques. I realise it's frustrating, but I can't reveal all my tricks - have to keep some things held back as a personal now and again; I'm entitled to keep some things to myself. If you would like to help me get back some of my money then fine... nuff said.

RouletteGhost · Mar 17, 12:25 PM 2017

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Mar 17, 12:21 PM 2017
Guys, I've spent a lot of time and money testing these techniques. I realise it's frustrating, but I can't reveal all my tricks - have to keep some things held back as a personal now and again; I'm entitled to keep some things to myself. If you would like to help me get back some of my money then fine... nuff said.

Nuff said

3Nine · Mar 17, 12:29 PM 2017

Pay dat man his money.

link:://i.imgur.com/uJxT1kT.mp4

RouletteGhost · Mar 17, 01:13 PM 2017

I think what we have here is someone who is intentionally trolling us

Maybe we should stop taking the bait?

Still · Mar 17, 01:42 PM 2017

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Mar 17, 12:21 PM 2017
If you would like to help me get back some of my money then fine... nuff said.

What do you mean? Are you over-all in the red at the roulette wheel? How would anyone help if that were the situation? Steve is willing to help, his way. Others could probably help...their way. But why should anyone share their way? Are you suggesting you might share your ways in exchange for the ways of others...privately?

falkor2k15 · Mar 17, 01:58 PM 2017

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 17, 01:13 PM 2017
I think what we have here is someone who is intentionally trolling us

Maybe we should stop taking the bait?

No - I'm simply trying to discuss ideas as I progress on this journey. And as I make discoveries - some information I'll share and some I'll keep to myself. No way am I trolling. And you need to improve your level at using cycles IMO till you become more proficient.

Still · Mar 17, 02:00 PM 2017

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Mar 17, 09:48 AM 2017
Parachuting [...]

So my best advice for dozen CL3 is stop playing and retrack - unless you want to get into more complex Russian doll methods. Hopefully positions will supersede them all...

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Mar 17, 10:08 AM 2017
Above was a mistake - CL3 DOES help if played correctly.

You mean CL3 can be helped if it is played inside Russian doll styled loops?

Or, it's your best advice to stop and retrack because CL3 can be helped...but not much?

Anyways, it was suggested a while ago that Priyanka was looking into some other bet at these dead-locked situations, which we also have in VdW. At one point the idea came up, in regards VdW, to bet on the straight numbers that have come up, leading to the dead-locked ar.prog. It was a big 'maybe' needing to be tested. Not sure if we ever heard what came of that idea. So maybe it worked! Likewise, has anybody looked into betting on the unique, straight up numbers leading to the dead-locked CL3?

falkor2k15 · Mar 17, 02:16 PM 2017

Quote from: Still on Mar 17, 02:00 PM 2017
You mean CL3 can be helped if it is played inside Russian doll styled loops?

Or, it's your best advice to stop and retrack because CL3 can be helped...but not much?

Anyways, it was suggested a while ago that Priyanka was looking into some other bet at these dead-locked situations, which we also have in VdW. At one point the idea came up, in regards VdW, to bet on the straight numbers that have come up, leading to the dead-locked ar.prog. It was a big 'maybe' needing to be tested. Not sure if we ever heard what came of that idea. So maybe it worked! Likewise, has anybody looked into betting on the unique, straight up numbers leading to the dead-locked CL3?

Yeah, I think CL3 has several options in that situation - but it's only one part of a much grander strategy that will eventually need to be figured out if we are to make consistent profit.

Yeah, the VdW dead lock/dead heat/dead run is a similar situation that stops non-random working out of the box. I think the straight up numbers would help - but the betting opportunities there are very limited so cannot rely on that situation for gaining edge. Instead you could look at the 3rd/4th spin as the potential key-frame.

When on straights the deadlock wouldn't be on CL3 but at a much higher length - and with straights there isn't any other section or escape route to "cutting/engineering a more efficient bet" (not my words) - except the positions stream or the next cycle (inside or outside).

BTW, I'm the real Priyanka - she was just a phony who pretended to be me - I was forced to sign up with a different name so I chose Falkor!

Still · Mar 17, 02:38 PM 2017

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Mar 17, 02:16 PM 2017
[...] but it's only one part of a much grander strategy that will eventually need to be figured out if we are to make consistent profit.

[...]I think the straight up numbers would help - but the betting opportunities there are very limited so cannot rely on that situation for gaining edge. Instead you could look at the 3rd/4th spin as the potential key-frame.

BTW, I'm the real Priyanka - she was just a phony who pretended to be me - I was forced to sign up with a different name so I chose Falkor!

Are you, whoever you are, asking for group-sourced resources for help solving some of these puzzles/possibilities?

If so, can we expect some sort of quid pro quo?

3Nine · Mar 17, 02:49 PM 2017

Time to test the ignore feature.

RouletteGhost · Mar 17, 02:51 PM 2017

Quote from: 3Nine on Mar 17, 02:49 PM 2017
Time to test the ignore feature.

Doesn't work at all

Not even a tiny bit

Still · Mar 17, 03:02 PM 2017

I don't mean Hillary-Clinton-Foundation style quid pro quo, just good old American quid pro quo.

For example, here is a chart of something you may have discovered regarding a way to manage CL1 and CL2 on dozens.

These results could be because of an original idea you had. Or, the idea could have been helped by all the group-sourcing going on here, one idea leading to another. Or, the idea could be right here, in this forum, hiding right out in the open...in a post in a thread that is long lost...sourced to the forum by a generous soul.

Presumably, this performance can be improved, again, by more group-sourcing.

Can we expect to know, directly from you, or from you pointing to the existing logic, the details of the betting logic that generates this kind of chart?

Or, is the logic being held to barter for other performance enhancing ideas, either publicly or privately?

If anyone shares, or has shared how to enhance this publicly, do you suppose we can at least have the lower-performing, grade B logic, that gains 200 units in almost 50k spins?

falkor2k15 · Mar 17, 05:15 PM 2017

That's not my chart? Managing CL1 and CL2; what do you mean?

falkor2k15 · Mar 17, 05:33 PM 2017

Still, oh I get it... so you are actually looking for that book too?? Unfortunately, that's my secret also... Everyone seems to be after that secret Book Of Edge... somebody even tried to mug me today for it - but do you think I'd be so stupid as to actually carry the book around with me?

You made that chart based on my HTML table.... that curve is better than I thought actually - not too far off Priyanka, Praline and 3Nine's graphs.

I don't even believe Priyanka discovered that method - I was the first to do so and document it for posterity.

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