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[falkor2k15]

@falkor....falkor does betting for AP to hit on 3,4,6 spin gets better than rest of them plus 0

I don't know, but I brought the zero in on my last test and the edge DOUBLED(!!) - but I had to reverse all bets from what I was doing before. Instead +300 it's now at +600! So need to study more inside-out techniques to increase edge in other contexts... still not sure why bringing in zero changed the stats so much for ECs. Dr was right.

[RouletteGhost]

With all the edge talk how many millionaires do we have now? Falkor?

[falkor2k15]

With all the edge talk how many millionaires do we have now? Falkor?

Edge can't make us millionaires without applying it to a good all-round master strategy.

[Taotie]

With all the edge talk how many millionaires do we have now? Falkor?

I'll put my hand up for one. 

[Scarface]

Scarface, after spending days (with lot of efforts) to read all 97 pages of this thread and read lot of posts multiple times, I found your this very post on page 97. Now I am confused, am I loving you or am I hating you, I think both at the same time. I cannot express my feelings at the moment.

Hopefully I will get more this type of Superb reviews in future from you. Thanks a lot, God Bless You.

Best Regards,
SugTips

Don't feel bad, I've spent a great deal of time on this too!  VDW, or arithmetic progression, is just a fact that doesn't increase accuracy of bets....even Pri has said so.  It's no different in saying red will come up 50% over the long run.

One thing I did spend alot of time working on is whether or not events have lower variance than even chances.  I've tried this in a variety of ways, with different types of events.  In a nutshell, events can have the same long bad luck streaks as anything else. 

I don't really see anything on this post that would provide an edge in flat betting.  Also, nothing here that will lower the variance of the game enough to allow a progression that  doesn't spiral out of control.

I will continue to search for a good system.  I think the key for a good system comes down to a good progression, and money management.  I'll keep working at it....and if I do discover something promising I'll post it (without all the cryptic clues  )

[nottophammer]

Now you MIT and OX_BRIDGE  boys have got to the bottom, can you give an example to the low levellers or just for me on how events and cycles work

[RouletteGhost]

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[falkor2k15]

Now you MIT and OX_BRIDGE  boys have got to the bottom, can you give an example to the low levellers or just for me on how events and cycles work

You have to concentrate on the unique numbers between the repeats. Each number/pigeon is part of a "strong" or "weak" structure that takes on certain characteristics - but individually the numbers mean nothing. The idea is to win each cycle or break even - in 36 spins you should definitely be in profit - need to plan beforehand how to bet the 36 spins based on events so that you collect enough wins at the end by exploiting the structures.

[sugtips]

Don't feel bad, I've spent a great deal of time on this too!  VDW, or arithmetic progression, is just a fact that doesn't increase accuracy of bets....even Pri has said so.  It's no different in saying red will come up 50% over the long run.

One thing I did spend alot of time working on is whether or not events have lower variance than even chances.  I've tried this in a variety of ways, with different types of events.  In a nutshell, events can have the same long bad luck streaks as anything else. 

I don't really see anything on this post that would provide an edge in flat betting.  Also, nothing here that will lower the variance of the game enough to allow a progression that  doesn't spiral out of control.

I will continue to search for a good system.  I think the key for a good system comes down to a good progression, and money management.  I'll keep working at it....and if I do discover something promising I'll post it (without all the cryptic clues  )

Thank you Scarface,

Yes Please, I will wait for your system.

I also realized that two most important thing to win more sessions than losing sessions are:
1) Good Bet Selection
2) Good Negative Progression

For finding Good Bet Selection I am testing all the Ignatus systems, I think some bet selections are very good, for example his recent WOFT2

For finding Good Negative Progression, I am still in search but getting interested in some very old posts, like 29 step prog etc.

best regards,
SugTips

[Steve]

The answers to some of the questions here are actually really, really old news. Do some simple research. Gambling is at least many thousands of years old and the same principles have been tested countless times.

Why waste time trying to reinvent?

[DoctorSudoku]

2) Good Negative Progression



best regards,
SugTips

Good negative progression ??

Now there's an oxymoron, if ever there was one.   

[praline]

However, this one game in itself gives an edge over the game slightly higher than 9% which should defeat the house edge of american roulette.

Can somebody say that it is true?

[falkor2k15]

I was looking over Priyanka's 2nd video (still up on Youtube):
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=g1RWS1Ar_YM

I've got a new analysis of it below. She was using Line cycles as the non-random framework.

There's a few things that just don't add up:
*Why have virtual spins between bets? Is it mainly to complete the previous sequence or virtual spins for the next sequence?
*It seems the virtual spins might be so that Priyanka can commence betting when the Line cycle is defined "different" to previous line cycle, but I cannot find any advantage from D-S as either outer cycles or deficit recovery since the stats never change based on previous games.
*It seems Priyanka on 2 occasions was betting on the defining element of the cycle before last; however, I found that there's really no connection between 2 cycles unless part of an outer cycle. The only significant thing about any cycle, including outer, is the first unique or starting partition - but this doesn't seem to help gain any advantage over 1 or 2 cycles, etc. Priyanka's videos and her green spreadsheet are really starting to look more random...

Key: Number, High/Low, Dozen, Line - S/D = same/different line repeater as previous.

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11 L12
7  L12 - Low (lose)
24 H24 - Dozen 1 (lose)
16 L23 - Line 2 (win)
9  L12S

(9 L12)
29 H35
26 H35D - High (win)
19 H24 - High (lose)
11 L12 - Dozen 3 (lose)
14 L23 - Line 5 (lose)
5  L11 - Line 5 (win)
28 H35S

(28 H35)
19 H24
35 H36
19 H24D - High (win)
21 H24S

(21 H24) - discounted?
35 H36
22 H24s
26 H35
35 H36 - High (lose)
18 L23 - Dozen 3 (lose)
12 L12 - Line 6 (lose)
13 L23D - Line 6 (lose)
19 H24 - Line 6 + Dozen 2 + High (win)
15 L23S - Low (win)
9  L12 - Low x 2 (win)
13 L23S - Low (win)
7  L12 - Low (lose)
20 H24 - Dozen 2 (win)
18 L23S

(18 L23)
8  L12
6  L11
19 H24
14 L23S
33 H36
26 H35
17 L23S - Low (win)
17 L23S

(17 L23)
3  L11
4  L11D - Low (win)
6  L11S

(6  L11)
33 H36
26 H35
7  L12
18 L23
27 H35D - High (win)
23 H24 - High (lose)
17 L23 - Low+Dozen 3 (even)
15 L23D - Low (win)
3  L11 - Low x2 (win)
13 L23S

(13 L23)
20 H24
19 H24D - High (lose)
17 L23 - Dozen 2 (lose)
36 H36 - Line 4 (lose)
30 H35 - Line 4 (win)
24 H24S

(24 H24)
24 H24S
18 L23
14 L23D - Low (win)
5  L11 - Low (lose)
27 H35 - Dozen 2 (lose)
5  L11S - Line 3+Low (win)
16 L23

[Blueprint]

green spreadsheet

Wonder what's missing from the green spreadsheet. 

[falkor2k15]

Wonder what's missing from the green spreadsheet.

Win-Loss tally...?