*DOCUMENTED* PROOF OF CHEATING RNG SOFTWARE

[esoito]

Well, I definitely WAS cheated, Bayes!

So now I've left BV -- for good.

Anyone know of a reputable live, online game with very low chips? Makes live testing more economic.

[Twisteruk]

Good genes?  

"pretty unlikely to happen"

I'm guessing because software is so much cheaper, and perhaps, easier to rip you off, but I personally haven't seen any evidence of that.

HA HA !

I wondered if you would make that Joke lol 

[Twisteruk]

Well, I definitely WAS cheated, Bayes!

So now I've left BV -- for good.

Anyone know of a reputable live, online game with very low chips? Makes live testing more economic.

Where are you based ?

[VLS]

Anyone know of a reputable live, online game with very low chips? Makes live testing more economic.

Igal/Iggiv mentioned he still has old versions of some casinos' software which have $0.01 (cent) chip for live roulette. 

[Twisteruk]

I'm not trying to plug BV, if the time ever comes when I feel like I'm being cheated, I'll leave.

Bayes, how would you know

What is your personal criteria for this instance ?


As you said before, the odd number here and there being manipulated is almost undetectable....

[esoito]

Where are you based ?

Dahnunder.

[esoito]

Igal/Iggiv mentioned he still has old versions of some casinos' software which have $0.01 (cent) chip for live roulette. 

Sorry, you've completely lost me!

Please clarify. (Not just for me but for others who come after)

How would I use that with live roulette at, say, William Hill?

[iggiv]

Well, I definitely WAS cheated, Bayes!

So now I've left BV -- for good.

Anyone know of a reputable live, online game with very low chips? Makes live testing more economic.

joyland, william hill, vegas sky and a few others must have 10 c live roulette. those are playtech, but the wheel is real

[Blood Angel]

<<I have seen many casino openly boasts of 98% or something like this cashouts, if they can ensure the percentage of payouts, everything is calculated.>>

Abalaha said this earlier on in the thread..very good point well made..

[albalaha]

Victor posted this proof earlier and I always wandered that even after playing with utmost care why we lose in RNGs while playing big. Conclusion: RNG is tailor made to set the percentage of winning and losses, be it roulette or slots. No amount of technique can help when they know how to keep their profits intact. Anybody can be victimised, whether he plays better or worse.

[Bayes]

Bayes, how would you know

What is your personal criteria for this instance ?


As you said before, the odd number here and there being manipulated is almost undetectable....

Twister, to be honest, I don't really have a criteria, other than continually losing.  
I certainly don't win every session, but I haven't seen anything playing in real mode which I don't see in fun mode. Also, BV has something unique - randomness control - which guarantees that the sequence of outcomes is not manipulated, ie; that it won't change depending on your stake. This is because the outcome is actually generated BEFORE you place a bet, and the purpose of the checksum is to confirm it.

[Twisteruk]

Twister, to be honest, I don't really have a criteria, other than continually losing.  
I certainly don't win every session, but I haven't seen anything playing in real mode which I don't see in fun mode. Also, BV has something unique - randomness control - which guarantees that the sequence of outcomes is not manipulated, ie; that it won't change depending on your stake. This is because the outcome is actually generated BEFORE you place a bet, and the purpose of the checksum is to confirm it.

Thanx Bayes, I just wondered what your take on it was 

Do you prefer RNG or Real Wheel out of interest ?

[MrJ]

A REAL casino for me....or nothing!! If you do not live close to one, you dont play. Yes, it does suck.  Ken

[Twisteruk]

Dahnunder.

Smartlive Casino is 0.25p for inside and doz/col but Ã,£1 for EC


I dont know of any others that are lower for LIVE Wheel's


Unless someone else does ?

[iggiv]

Smartlive Casino is 0.25p for inside and doz/col but Ã,£1 for EC


I don't know of any others that are lower for LIVE Wheel's


Unless someone else does ?

some playtech casinos like vegas sky, joyland, william hill, eurogrand. they have now a minimum stake and a chip for 10 c, but with their old software downloaded a while ago u can have minimum of 10 with 1 c chip, which means u can play even 1 c by putting also 3 c to each dozen