Denzies Parlay Happy Hour

[denzie]

And like Wannawin told me one time, "Don't get too discouraged if not many members post on your topic.  If you only help a handful, it's a worthy endeavor."  A lot of members don't like to have to go over and over a method that's not clearly explained and a lot of good examples given to make everything clear as a bell.  If you go back over your topic, you'll see that very few understood what you were doing until a lot of posts had been made.  Some are still not that clear on it.

If winning sessions keep coming and people start getting the idea that this may be one of the better systems that have come along in a long time, more and more will start showing interest.

Keep doing what you're doing!

GLC

Yes I know I'm not always very clear. Probably cuz of my English. What I think is not always what I write. And the beginning of this thread started of different. As I was playing it and look many spins my eye saw the new way (10steps). It might all be bit confusing.  My apologies.

And I'm not try to get the attention of the whole forum. If a few show intrest and help me test I'm already happy. We know there always will be street , dozen , ec , .....guys. Those are not easy to get of their regular game.

Thx very much GLC for replying. Always good to see you show intrest.

[RayManZ]

Hi Denzie,

Do you have a set of rules or is it more on gut feeling?

You showed some profit in the spin examples i posted but i like to know more what you do before the streak etc.

[denzie]

Hi Denzie,

Do you have a set of rules or is it more on gut feeling?

You showed some profit in the spin examples i posted but i like to know more what you do before the streak etc.

Of course I was lucky in all the examples I did got my 10 steps. But it's very simple. ...

I play on both colors. This way I'm not missing the begin of a streak. If the invest is not to much then I do it . So on step 3-4-5-6-7 I would invest. Cuz I'm aiming for 1000u minus our invest. At step 8-9 it's to much.

RR B RR B RRRR
RRR B R B RRRR
RRRR B RRRRR
RRRRR B RRRR
RR B R B RRRRR
etc...

Just make sure the invest not get to high so we can profit from our 1000u.

Sessions br is 500u.
(If I would play with 1000 it would busted only 3 times)

If you have questions feel free to ask

[eddy35]

Denzie,  what are you doing up at this hour?  Or maybe you're not that far away from Arizona.

Yes, I have been looking to see what you're doing that's different from my flat bet parlay.

I think the idea of covering a miss with personal money to keep a steak of wins going is a new concept and well worth looking into.

I'm a little leary of your idea of starting at say 4 instead of 1 so that you reach a win on 512 after only 8 wins instead of 10.  You're really only playing an 8 step marty based on 4 unit bets.  I don't think it gives you an advantage in the long run. (unless I misunderstand this idea of yours)

Eddy's graphs are impressive to say the least, but still represent only a blink of an eye's worth of spins in the long run.  Nevertheless, it's for sure worth looking into.  I just don't see that it gives us a real advantage over a regular marty.  At almost 67 years old I'm having a little difficulty gathering together all the ramifications of his idea.  I'll let you know if I come up with anything of merit.

Finally, you can't argue with good results so keep up the winning.  We're all rooting for you.

And like Wannawin told me one time, "Don't get too discouraged if not many members post on your topic.  If you only help a handful, it's a worthy endeavor."  A lot of members don't like to have to go over and over a method that's not clearly explained and a lot of good examples given to make everything clear as a bell.  If you go back over your topic, you'll see that very few understood what you were doing until a lot of posts had been made.  Some are still not that clear on it.

If winning sessions keep coming and people start getting the idea that this may be one of the better systems that have come along in a long time, more and more will start showing interest.

Keep doing what you're doing!

GLC

If you play a positive progression Martingale, you will only lose one base unit if you fail. With a negative progression you can lose your bankroll.

[GLC]

  I just don't see that it gives us a real advantage over a regular marty.


When I said regular marty, I didn't mean a regular negative marty, I mean a regular 1-2-4-8-16 etc... marty instead of a 1-3-7-15 etc... marty.

Like I said, I may not be understanding this your idea correctly.

GLC

[denzie]

Of course I was lucky in all the examples I did got my 10 steps. But it's very simple. ...

I play on both colors. This way I'm not missing the begin of a streak. If the invest is not to much then I do it . So on step 3-4-5-6-7 I would invest. Cuz I'm aiming for 1000u minus our invest. At step 8-9 it's to much.

RR B RR B RRRR
RRR B R B RRRR
RRRR B RRRRR
RRRRR B RRRR
RR B R B RRRRR
etc...

Just make sure the invest not get to high so we can profit from our 1000u.

Sessions br is 500u.
(If I would play with 1000 it would busted only 3 times)

If you have questions feel free to ask

Final stats.... I go in after a virtual down draft of 100/150.... still does the job more than ok.

[denzie]

Today about 2 hours play... made 10 steps 2 times. 

[Bettingking]

Hi Denzies,

That sound good and I use this type of strategy too but how do you deal with a bad start?
Do you use the opposite when in loss as in Marty to get back to your starting point?
I do but could still seem risky if bad start....

eg.
BET 1 1 unit , loss -1
BET 2 1 unit, loss -2
BET 3 2 units, loss -4
BET 4 4 units, loss -8
BET 5 8 units, loss -16
BET 6 16 units, Win (even)

...or keep betting 1 until back to start to be safer.

[denzie]

Uhm not sure what you mean.

Bet 1 ... loss ... -1
Bet 2 ... loss ... -2
Bet 3 ... loss ... -3
Etc... we lose only 1 unit each time.

FYI I've been playing this for months now. I can assure you if you play virtual till a dd of 100/150 you will win more than 90% of your sessions. And each winning session I win around my br.

The only downside is time. Sometimes you see those streaks passing and you didn't bet. 

[Bettingking]

Yeah thanks thats what I meant. 0h yeah makes sense why risk double when you can lose even more

Yes another progression as long as not too many loses would be:

Bet 1 1 unit loss -1
Bet 2  2 units loss -3
Bet 3  3 units loss -6
Bet 4  4 units win -2

Although may end up better or worse but as you said wouldnt get too deep in anyway.

[denzie]

I wouldn't do it. Negative progressions is not my thing. It mostly end up.....negative 

Hope you give it try .... you might like it 

After all this time it's very clear how many times we can make 8-9-10 steps on average in 500 or 1000 spins. Once you got that info.......you can fill in the rest.

[MrG]

Uhm not sure what you mean.

Bet 1 ... loss ... -1
Bet 2 ... loss ... -2
Bet 3 ... loss ... -3
Etc... we lose only 1 unit each time.

FYI I've been playing this for months now. I can assure you if you play virtual till a dd of 100/150 you will win more than 90% of your sessions. And each winning session I win around my br.

The only downside is time. Sometimes you see those streaks passing and you didn't bet. 

Hi denzie this is interesting. I could test it on thousands even millions of spins by creating a script. But in order to do so I need clear rules on how to play. I read this whole topic but I still am not sure how to play this. Could you post clear rules on how to play?

[denzie]

@MrG .... it's has been coded already and it lost. Very kind of you though. This is one of those that can win huge over 100k spins but after a million spins it will lose . Unfortunately. 

[Thunder Pants]

Quite inspiring thread this one. I guess Denzies orginal system is basicly a variation of Paroli or reverse Marty or whatever. Never really looked into it as everywhere its even mentioned its failing & only a fool or a madman would attempt it. Then again when i mention roulette to anyone they always look at me like im a foolish madman. I should have know better 

Anyways the math/parlay looks promising. Denz inital version is heartwarming & brave & best of all you dont have to take it all the way to step 10. The psychologial part of it is better as well aka betting on wins & only risking current winnings .. instead of the usual "the glass is half empty" Marty where you chase losses hoping for a single win to recover your initial 1 unit & drain your bankroll. Not that the many 1 unit bets for each attempt cannot eat into your bankroll, but nothing in compare to marty of cause.

The "pay a single loss on the climb, but stop on 2 losses" is quite ingenius as well as long as you keep it in the lower bet region. As higher step  bankroll pays would be a even quicker killer than Marty of cause.

Havnt even gotten around to test it with EC but got the idea pop'd into my head that this should also work with dozens/colums even faster as the 3:1 payout is staggering. Been playing my Darklight lately .. aka i assume a dozen is basickly sleeping so i only play the remaining 12 red or 12 black and hope they will streak. But for simplistic's sake say i just play 12 units on a dozen hoping it will streak. Now i usually just flatbet or play a very safe 12,12,12,24,24 progression "sticking" to the same dozen. But if i instead put my first bet winnings on a second bet that the same dozen will pop .. is 108 units win. Let me take it step by step:

1. Bankroll is 500 units. Im guessing or a theory tells me or i follow last spin .. that next dozen will be dozen 1. So i put 12 units on it.
2. Dozen 1 hits & i have 36 units. As my second bet i bet on dozen 1 again.
3. Dozen 1 hits & i have 108 units and i stop betting untill a new trigger event happens.

Now i know guess a single dozen right twice in a row so i dont say this is easy but betting 12/500 = 2,4% to win 108/500 = a 21,6% has to be profitable in the long run. Or at least i sounds logical in my head as this is all theory & i have to do some testing first.

[Thunder Pants]

oh and considering Denz first posted strategy where you aim for 10 (well 11 actually as you need a trigger too i guess) of a EC to streak in a row. I guess its actually worth waiting betting untill you actually see 4 or 5 of EC in a row or perhaps even later as yes each attempt is only 1 unit .. in in the long all those single lost units eats your bankroll, especially if you play all 3 EC at the same time.

You need to keep you wits of cause, we all know roulette is unpredictable, so if you havnt seen a single streak over 7 in 3 hours then you will save a lot by skipping all those small attempts below 5 .. but if you just had 7 in a row 3 times in half a hour then its more profitable to stick to the 1 unit  from the get go.

Also dealer signature may come in handy with this one. You may not believe that a dealer can repeat a "monster" 35 black & 6 red session again, but id at least write down their name