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Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

Started by onetaste, Nov 02, 10:29 AM 2015

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RouletteGhost

nothing to see here...

im being told it cant work by a guy who says not to quote because if you don't quote the threads easier to read   :ooh:

but imagine a world where my post of truth gets deleted while falkor can (for the 2nd year in a row) state he has a grail that makes millions but leaves breadcrumbs and he isnt deleted
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

Quote from: keepontryin on Dec 09, 02:14 PM 2015
rg maybe you can explain one more time the best way to play grassroots as you see it now

the BEST way to apply it?

i dont know because i am seeing the same across the board

if i had to choose I would say against previous 3. in mini games. alternating between dozens and columns JUST as celescliff is doing
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

see marquee....123 bets suited for hit and run....very rarely will you arrive and play 2 mini games just as 123 hits....another marquee of no 123...as most are
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RayManZ

Ok i did some coding + testing. Sorry no fancy graphs just the results.

I only did 123 on euro wheel. The other patterns like 132 213 231 312 and 321 show the same results.

For 66k spins:

123: 2213 times
1231: 682 times
12312: 221 times
123132: 66 times

So my advice:

1. Only bet one time after a pattern.
2. Wait for a pattern to end. 123123 is not a new bet! 123 is still repeating and back to back to back does happen!
3. You can use any 12 numbers you like for a pattern. Pinwheel, dozens or columns. All similar results in my tests.
4. All the pattern show similar results.

I don't know what the W/L ratio is on the first bet so i can't recommand any good progression. But as you can see i will win flat bet. It's not much but if you track every pattern of the dozens and columns. you have 12 posible betting options.

Good luck!

RayManZ

Forgot one more thing. Cover the zero as a win! I will pay off.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: RayManZ on Dec 09, 06:16 PM 2015
Ok i did some coding + testing. Sorry no fancy graphs just the results.

I only did 123 on euro wheel. The other patterns like 132 213 231 312 and 321 show the same results.

For 66k spins:

123: 2213 times
1231: 682 times
12312: 221 times
123132: 66 times

So my advice:

1. Only bet one time after a pattern.
2. Wait for a pattern to end. 123123 is not a new bet! 123 is still repeating and back to back to back does happen!
3. You can use any 12 numbers you like for a pattern. Pinwheel, dozens or columns. All similar results in my tests.
4. All the pattern show similar results.

I don't know what the W/L ratio is on the first bet so i can't recommand any good progression. But as you can see i will win flat bet. It's not much but if you track every pattern of the dozens and columns. you have 12 posible betting options.

Good luck!


2200 times in 66,000 spins

important note: not all of those 2200 123's would make you lose

some will be

231
233

see that? 123 showed but the 1 started in 1st mini game and the 23 happened in the 2nd mini game

so the 123 pattern will not always be

123

it will often be

312
322

see that?

1 starts in mini game one following a 2 then 3 in next mini game

then 123123 66 times, 1 in a thousand....so that has a lot of merit

thanks ray, thanks for posting something of substance and not just saying it fails etc etc. thats what we need. you could have put 50,000 123 and id still say thank you

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

Quote from: RayManZ on Dec 09, 06:19 PM 2015
Forgot one more thing. Cover the zero as a win! I will pay off.

absolutely....

we dont want to not bet 0 then see

023
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RayManZ

You don't seem to understand how i would be betting.

I would not bet like you. Every mini game.

Why not? Because it does not work in the longrun. Yes hit n run maybe. But that's a gamble. If you look at the stats i posted what i suggest works the best.

Wait for a pattern (3 unique dozens) in a groups of 3. No rolling! Stick to 3!

When you get a pattern:

1
20
32

Pattern: 123!

BET: Dozen 2 and 3

Next number: 16
Win on units!

Wait to spins to complete the group of 3

1
33

O wait new pattern! 213

BET dozen 1 and 3

Number 16 again
Lose 2 units

Wait 2 spins

ECT....






wiggy

Thanks for posting that picture up RG. I just went over to Celtic Casino and I can play on the 00 wheel from here in the UK as well. It's the first one I know about which I have access to. I can now give my splits idea a go along with them second column numbers as well. Cheers.  :thumbsup:
"You can lead a human to intelligence, but you can't make him think''

RouletteGhost

Quote from: RayManZ on Dec 09, 06:32 PM 2015
You don't seem to understand how i would be betting.

I would not bet like you. Every mini game.

Why not? Because it does not work in the longrun. Yes hit n run maybe. But that's a gamble. If you look at the stats i posted what i suggest works the best.

Wait for a pattern (3 unique dozens) in a groups of 3. No rolling! Stick to 3!

When you get a pattern:

1
20
32

Pattern: 123!

BET: Dozen 2 and 3

Next number: 16
Win on units!

Wait to spins to complete the group of 3

1
33

O wait new pattern! 213

BET dozen 1 and 3

Number 16 again
Lose 2 units

Wait 2 spins

ECT....

i like the tweak a lot

betting against previous 3 ONLY when the previous 3 are all unique?

i agree, no rolling whatsoever....all in groups of 3....rolling is what killed others
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

Quote from: wiggy on Dec 09, 06:34 PM 2015
Thanks for posting that picture up RG. I just went over to Celtic Casino and I can play on the 00 wheel from here in the UK as well. It's the first one I know about which I have access to. I can now give my splits idea a go along with them second column numbers as well. Cheers.  :thumbsup:

1- test fun money first, they give you 1,000 fake money
2- test yourself take noone word for it

good luck

p.s. what was the 2nd column split idea?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RayManZ

 :-[
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 09, 06:36 PM 2015
i like the tweak a lot

betting against previous 3 ONLY when the previous 3 are all unique?

That's right! If my math is correct you will win in the long run flatbet.

66k spins: 2213 Bets placed, 682 bets lost. 682 x 2 = 1364 units lost. But 1531 units won.

With a good progression. Like lanky divisor i could work perfectly.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: RayManZ on Dec 09, 06:41 PM 2015
:-[
That's right! If my math is correct you will win in the long run flatbet.

66k spins: 2213 Bets placed, 682 bets lost. 682 x 2 = 1364 units lost. But 1531 units won.

With a good progression. Like lanky divisor i could work perfectly.

just quickly went through 2 of my charts on columns and dozens....only when 3 unique came in a row bet against....worked perfectly

i think its because the chances are low for the ball to hit 3 unique dozens in a row and then do it again in the same exact pattern

good one
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

celescliff

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 09, 04:19 PM 2015
Complete post edit:

Celescliff. You are one of the few posting charts if you could share future tests id be grateful and curious


And I will. The test wont be as frequent as before but I post my test as often as I can. :)

I enjoy this system and I like testing different tweaks and strategies, and as long as I'm enjoying it, I'm going to play it.  :thumbsup:

wiggy

The second column idea is in your other thread. I noticed that 10 of the 12 second column numbers are in a 15 pocket section at the bottom of the wheel. Most of the split numbers are also directly opposite each other on the 00 wheel. There may be some mileage in all that using a combined strategy.
"You can lead a human to intelligence, but you can't make him think''

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