Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[RouletteGhost]

can even get crazier

how often does 1 2 3 occur on dozen column dozen

in other words bet:

spin 1) bet 2nd and 3rd dozens
spin 2) bet 1st and 3rd columns
spin 3) bet 1st and 2nd dozens

3 bets 

[doola]

currently looking at 123 for columns

so far better then dozens but wayyyyy too soon to say...need to check a few hundred minimum

I have been researching betting on columns for a long long time.  Two of the most common patterns with columns are 123123 and its opposite 321321.

If you get it right, column betting is one of the few ways of betting where you can almost always break even over a set number of spins.

IMO if there were a Holy Grail for Roulette it would be based on columns.

[RouletteGhost]

Id like to add a suggestion or a tweak to the play for any member here interested in one tastes finding

I thought of this tweak because of the times ive seen a 1 2 3 happen i never saw a 4 loss in a row suffered yet. In other words 1 2 3 then 1 ( 1 2 3 1) have not seen that yet

So the tweak: when u arrive at the table the last spin is your starting point

Example: last spin was 23. 2nd dozen. Pretend that was a virtual loss

In other words you were on step 2 betting the 2nd dozen woldnt show but it did.

So your next bet would be dozen 3 wont show. If lose now bet dozen 1 wont show. If lose now bet dozen 2 wont show. As mentioned expect 1 loss every 60 to 100 spins but by playing THIS way it may be better

So whatever number just hit thats where you start

On a win stop. Sit out for one spin. Next spin is 3, 1st dozen that was virtual and pretend a loss now next bet against dozen 2 showing bettin it wont go 1 2 3. Then if lost bet against dozen 3. Every win stop and wait for next spin as ur virtual loss starting point

I think playing this way will avoid some 1 2 3 losses

I just checked 2 more 185 spin lots. 1 had 1 loss and the other had 2 losses on the original method

Next i will test with this tweak. But not tonight

[RouletteGhost]

Tweak 2

Wait for pattern 1,2 2,3 or 3,1 then begin betting against 1 2 3

Wait for one of the above triggers then bet

Example: 3,1 just happened. Now bet against 2. If win wait for next trigger. If lose next bet against 3.

[RouletteGhost]

Heres a test not by me but by normy2000

4 times in 220 spins 1 2 3 occured. Average once every 60 spins

So this is a constant. Once every 60 spins this will happen

So we have a trigger if u can wait.....

Notice the amount of spins 1 2 3 did not happen

This is 5 hours of play. No need for 1000 spin test

[Normy2000]

Here is a larger view.

1 = Win at first step
2 = Win at second step
3 = Win at theird step
4 = Lost progression

[RouletteGhost]

Here is a larger view.

1 = Win at first step
2 = Win at second step
3 = Win at theird step
4 = Lost progression

Many thanks

From spin 50 to 180 no 1 2 3 pattern ^

I think my tweak will work wonder

Wait for 1,2 2,3 or 3,1 then begin rolling then on a win wait

I hope everyone sees the potential here

You can do 1 3 9 once a day with a larger unit

I mean big stuff here

As u can see with the graphs normy has shown whether its 10 thousand spins or 200 spins 1 2 3 is never followed by 1 2 3

Therefore one can say the HG is to wait for 1 2 3 to occur then bet against it happening again. This is big, no?

[RayManZ]

What is so special about the 123 combo?

321 should be just as rare... And i think all the other combo's are also just as rare.

Why not bet for the last combo not to repeat with your 1 3 9 progression?

123
132
213
231
312
321

Wait for this to happen. Then bet against it with 1 3 9  progression. Less waiting and in theory the same results as 123.

[RouletteGhost]

What is so special about the 123 combo?

321 should be just as rare... And i think all the other combo's are also just as rare.

Why not bet for the last combo not to repeat with your 1 3 9 progression?

123
132
213
231
312
321

Wait for this to happen. Then bet against it with 1 3 9  progression. Less waiting and in theory the same results as 123.

Something to consider

Thanks. Ill try it

[RayManZ]

Did some testing:

66k spins:

123: 831
132: 854
213: 824
231: 807
312: 771
321: 802
111: 774
222: 790
333: 795

123 123: 31
132 132: 35
213 213: 30
231 231: 30
312 312: 26
321 321: 28
111 111: 23
222 222: 22
333 333: 26

So a repeat does happen, but not very often. i did the math and you will be in profit if you are using 1 3 9 progression. Not a great profit but it will be profit. About 100u per combo. So 900units in 66k spins...

It takes 26 wins to recover from a bust. That's alot...Maybe with a huge bankroll you can double the progression on a bust so you'll only need 13 wins?

[RouletteGhost]

Yea good idea

26 wins to recover is a lot but its also a guarantee. You typically wont see 123 twice within 26 spins so the recovery rate is good

Thats why the best trigger would be 1 2 3 then begin

Good testing sir!

P.s. double to recover in 13 spins is good idea

Also when i do play with real money it will be at my local casino with 15 auto wheels. Im going for one win at each airball machine then leave

[RayManZ]

Yea good idea

26 wins to recover is a lot but its also a guarantee. You typically wont see 123 twice within 26 spins so the recovery rate is good

Thats why the best trigger would be 1 2 3 then begin

Good testing sir!

P.s. double to recover in 13 spins is good idea

Also when i do play with real money it will be at my local casino with 15 auto wheels. Im going for one win at each airball machine then leave

It's not 26 spins. It's 26 bets. You need 26 bets. You only bet after a combo happened. Like 123. Then bet against 123.

[RouletteGhost]

Oh well in that case id do 1 3 9 twice win 2 units and move tables or leave.

I was talking about continuous betting but if u mean waiting for 1 2 3 to occur then we should win almost everytime

[RouletteGhost]

Another way would be to wait for any 3 combo to repeat. Then bet the next 3 combo wont repeat

So many ways. Sigh.

[RouletteGhost]

Here is a larger view.

1 = Win at first step
2 = Win at second step
3 = Win at theird step
4 = Lost progression

Normy, to avoid the drastic downslide we can bet the 1st two bets. 1 then 3. If lose sit out the 3rd spin and start again at the next set of 3. One taste suggested 1, 3. If lose sit out 3rd spin then do 2,6 on first 2 spins of the next set of 3

We never have to bet step 3 of 9 units. Can be virtual. That graph would be drastically different

There are many ways to make such a sure bet profitable