Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[RouletteGhost]

Does anyone agree that this is a HG or am i just nuts? Be honest

[RouletteGhost]

Did some testing:

66k spins:

123: 831
132: 854
213: 824
231: 807
312: 771
321: 802
111: 774
222: 790
333: 795

123 123: 31
132 132: 35
213 213: 30
231 231: 30
312 312: 26
321 321: 28
111 111: 23
222 222: 22
333 333: 26

So a repeat does happen, but not very often. i did the math and you will be in profit if you are using 1 3 9 progression. Not a great profit but it will be profit. About 100u per combo. So 900units in 66k spins...

It takes 26 wins to recover from a bust. That's alot...Maybe with a huge bankroll you can double the progression on a bust so you'll only need 13 wins?

The math is astonishing. How close it all is...

[Normy2000]

Another way would be to wait for any 3 combo to repeat. Then bet the next 3 combo wont repeat

So many ways. Sigh.

A combo of 3 to repeat append aprox. every 2130 spins.
There is 9 of them, 2130/9 = 236.6 spins.

Would you wait (236/50) 4h45 for a trigger?
Not me, because my sessions are aprox. 1h30 max. 

[RouletteGhost]

A combo of 3 to repeat append aprox. every 2130 spins.
There is 9 of them, 2130/9 = 236.6 spins.

Would you wait (236/50) 4h45 for a trigger?
Not me, because my sessions are aprox. 1h30 max. 

Absolutely. Im with you on that

I wouldnt wait either

Id take advantage of it not repeating as seen here. 30 times in 60 thousand spin. Yousers!!

4 hour wait for a repeat? Thats 4 hours of wins



Ray was onto something. Bet aginst thr past 3. Boom

[Normy2000]

What is so special about the 123 combo?

321 should be just as rare... And i think all the other combo's are also just as rare.

Why not bet for the last combo not to repeat with your 1 3 9 progression?

123
132
213
231
312
321

Wait for this to happen. Then bet against it with 1 3 9  progression. Less waiting and in theory the same results as 123.

I agree here, allready better...
... same 224 spins from SmartLive posted earlier.

[Normy2000]

Lets try a longer session playing this way, 1436 spins or 28h45 

+8 units 

[RouletteGhost]

I agree here, allready better...
... same 224 spins from SmartLive posted earlier.

simulating that the past 3 dozen pattern wont repeat?

judging by that graph one repeat at spin 150 normy?

what we can learn from your graphs, is make a few units and move on to another table or breaktime

[RouletteGhost]

i just quickly went through spins 200-300 in american zumma

the previous pattern did not repeat at all

1, 3, 9 won every mini game of 3 spins. of course we stop on a win and wait for the next 3 spin mini game

one condition that we never lost in those 100 spins: a small break even insurance chip on 0

this was simulated as the past 3 spin dozen pattern would not repeat, not against the original 1 2 3 pattern but on the rolling basis that ray suggested. good suggestion ray

good enough for me as i wont stick around for 4 hours, lol

[RouletteGhost]

i just went through spins 400 to 600 in zumma

im seeing the previous 3 pattern repeat multiple times...have to re-think that...

i saw 1 1 2 repeat and 1 3 3 repeat

from what im seeing on this, betting against 1 2 3 occuring OR betting against any other set combo occuring may be better?

as ray pointed out choose any, 3 2 1 for example

betting against a static way for a few bets looks better, doesnt have to be 123, can be 3 2 1 or 2 1 3 etc

[Normy2000]

simulating that the past 3 dozen pattern wont repeat?
Yes

judging by that graph one repeat at spin 150 normy?
For this 224 set yes, only 1 loss, but on the next set of 1436 spins, we have 17 loss, so a repeat every 84.5 spins...

what we can learn from your graphs, is make a few units and move on to another table or breaktime
dunno 

[RouletteGhost]

here is a 78 spin sample from zumma betting against a 1 2 3 formation (spin 700 american wheel zumma)

green highlight is where we win, and also where we stop and wait for next mini game

each mini game of 3 spins won

mind you, i would not sit for 78 spins, but look at how nice this is........its just.....beautiful

this will surely get me some comped rooms 

to keep it simple we could just bet that every 3rd spin will not be the 1st dozen with a good ole 1 3 9 

edit: you will see a 0 at a bad time. you WILL see 1, 2, 0 and it will ruin your day, so please insurance chip on zero

[RayManZ]

Only bet the combo's i gave. 122 is not a good combo. The nine i gave are more rare so you will have better results with it.

Just aim for 10 units daily on a wheel. That should be posible even if you have a bust. And indeed cover the zero. In my results i ignored the zero.

Dont be greedy and be patience and you can make 10 units on a daily basis with this.

[RouletteGhost]

Only bet the combo's i gave. 122 is not a good combo. The nine i gave are more rare so you will have better results with it.

Just aim for 10 units daily on a wheel. That should be posible even if you have a bust. And indeed cover the zero. In my results i ignored the zero.

Dont be greedy and be patience and you can make 10 units on a daily basis with this.

Thanks. And i agree

Some of the tests i did betting against 1 2 3 had the same good results betting against 2 3 1.  So changing it up can help avoid the rare loss. Maybe bet against 1 2 3 for a few wins then against 2 3 1 for a few and so on

[Kattila]

Something to think about :

x is 24 numbers
1  is 12 numbers

Chances to get same after the trigger ?
And how we can get such triggers, is worth to have such trig. ?
Would  be interesting to see some stats about this.

Triggers:

1x1x1x1

1xx1xx1xx1

11xx11xx

1111xxxx

111xxx1 ( here bet against 11xxx)

(i need four 1  for some reason)


cheers

[RouletteGhost]

Something to think about :

x is 24 numbers
1  is 12 numbers

Chances to get same after the trigger ?
And how we can get such triggers, is worth to have such trig. ?
Would  be interesting to see some stats about this.

Triggers:

1x1x1x1

1xx1xx1xx1

11xx11xx

1111xxxx

111xxx1 ( here bet against 11xxx)

(i need four 1  for some reason)


cheers

I have to look into that. A bit confusing at first though. Can you give an example?

Ill test some more tonight, another set against 1 2 3 and maybe a few sets against 2 3 1 and post the results because 2 3 1 looked just as promising

Looking at above chart i made, 2 3 1 did not occur. However, 3 2 1 did.....not saying it occurs more or less but in a group of this amount of spins expect at least one consecutive dozen 3 spin group of:
1 2 3, 2 3 1, or 3 1 2

I cant agree with ray enough, win some units and move tables