Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[RouletteGhost]

Do you mean wait for the pattern 1 2 to occur then begin betting against 1 2 3 occuring?

[KCIN012]

Yes
exactly that simples?

Nick

[RouletteGhost]

Good idea thank you

[KCIN012]

No problem
let me know, if it stands up?
In theory it should, maybe even flat bet hit and run.
Nick

[RouletteGhost]

Cant argue there

This strategy is a dream for hit and run players

With proper bankroll and large units should make steady income

[KCIN012]

And its so simple? (even twocat shouldn't ask too many question)
maybe too simple, but lets put it to the test and see what happens.
Thanks Nick.

[RouletteGhost]

We can also have the 3 spin mini games as normal

But bet against 1 2 forming. No bet spin 3

1 3 progression. Safer

So when arrive bet against dozen 1. If win great. Sit out the next 2 spins. Bet again next 3 spin mini game

If lose next bet against dozen 2. If win sit out next spin and start over at next 3 spin mini game

If lose no worries we r down 8 units and will recover fast

Example

Dozen 1 shows. Lose
Dozen 3 shows. Win
Sit out 3rd spin

Start again

[hermbob]

So do we have a final answer here yet or is everybody still testing? Been following this thread for a while and doing some independent testing on the 1, 3, 9 progression with the 1, 2, 3 dozens approach. Pretty excited about it. Does this method still seem to be the most efficient or is the 1, 3 progression per 3 mini-game series now the front-runner?

By the way, I'm "new" to the forum as a poster, but have been a long time lurker. Nice to meet you guys.

[RouletteGhost]

everyone will always seek a "final" approach

thats the nature of these forums

now matter how you slice it, it is a good method. 99.9% of the time 1 3 9 wins a 3 spin mini game if not in spin 1 or 2.

the variations introduced by the law, GLC, and KCIN012 are all good

but the original post #1 by onetaste is all we really need

sure you can do the 1,3 approach for spin 1 and 2 only, however when i was at the casino saturday i won several of my bets on try #3 so 1,3 wouldnt have cut it. but in most cases it does. please note i saw 1 2 3 pattern once while at the casino saturday between about 10 different airball machines. so it falls in line with all the testing ive done. expect a loser 123 pattern about once an hour.

nice to meet you

p.s. all my testing has been on american. does euro see it more often, i dont know......

[Normy2000]

By the way, I'm "new" to the forum as a poster, but have been a long time lurker. Nice to meet you guys.

Welcome abord! :-)

[hermbob]

p.s. all my testing has been on american. does euro see it more often, i dont know......

Are you covering the zeroes? Or just one of the zeroes? None at all?

I've been testing on European with $6 units and throwing a single $1 on the zero. Not sure if that's the right ratios long term, but obviously hitting a zero at any point is welcomed. I immediately count that as a win and wait for the next mini-game whenever that comes.

[RouletteGhost]

that sounds good to me

the one time i did NOT cover the zero saturday, it hit

i think if u place 6 chips on the dozens, 1 chip on the zero is a good idea....

in many of my tests the 0 insurance bet saved the loss

people will disagree and say it doesnt matter, but i think it does

[button]

I like Turbo Genius method with GLC progression, get very nice results using it.

Betting that the last 3 dozen formation wont repeat

Betting against the dozen 3 spins back

After testing a few thousand spins I didn't have very good results doing it that way.

The 3 spin mini game style performs better and covering the zero (s) is a good idea when getting into the higher levels of progressions.  It depends on the value of units being used I think.  I vaguely remember reading something similar to this previously.

[RouletteGhost]

After testing a few thousand spins I didn't have very good results doing it that way.

The 3 spin mini game style performs better and covering the zero (s) is a good idea when getting into the higher levels of progressions.  It depends on the value of units being used I think.  I vaguely remember reading something similar to this previously.

turbos way will have long winning streaks and also losing streaks

i agree that betting against 1 2 3 forming is better....i still have not seen it more than once in 100 spins

[RouletteGhost]

here is a test i just ran beginning at spin #250 on american zumma

how i play it: if my insurance 0 hits within the 3 spins i wait until the next mini game. because 0 2 3, 1 0 3, 1 2 0, will hurt if we continue and it happens here and again

we have here 25 mini games

i would be done after 4 spins here. 2 mini games and i goto the next table. maybe even ONE. one mini game NEXT table. who knows, who cares just dont stay

in the 25 mini games we had one loss of 1 2 3. ouch. not so bad.

had we arrived one spin earlier or 1 spin later we would have completely avoided that 123

see it is important for the insurance 0. it saved 2 mini games

one game had 0 2 3. big save there, thank you zero. 0 hit. sit out next 2 spins wait for next mini game

once again this test shows expect 1 2 3 once every 75 spins

the question is how to COMPLETELY avoid it

since 1 2 3 will repeat (123123) one time every 2,000 spins (on average) if we hit the 123 and lose the 1 3 9 progression, now we can get aggressive and recover it quickly with larger units.......