Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[RayManZ]

I wouldnt say the "wrong" way. But definitely a different way.

I will try this

Thanks

One bet after each trigger u have mentioned. On loss 1 3 9. However to have 3 losses in a row after 3 triggers. UNLIKELY. Good job

Just stay with 9 on 3 losses in a row on a combo. It will recover. I did some tests.

Don't mix your progression with the combo's. That will kill it!

[RayManZ]

How come not....

After 1 3 against the 2 ?

All these runs have the same chance of hitting & this way he could bet more often ?

Your right! Does not matter what combo you bet. Just dont mix them! One bankroll for every combo!

[ddarko]

Your right! Does not matter what combo you bet. Just dont mix them! One bankroll for every combo!

thxs for replying Ray, Erm.... what does "just don't mix them" mean pls ?

thxs 

[RayManZ]

If combo 213 is a loss.

213 - loss

Now combo 312 shows up
312 - loss

Dont bet 3 units in 312 combo. Its not the same combo. Every combo has it own progression. So just bet 1 unit.

Now 213 shows again.

Bet now 3 units because combo 213 had a loss earlier.

211 - win

[RouletteGhost]

Just stay with 9 on 3 losses in a row on a combo. It will recover. I did some tests.

Don't mix your progression with the combo's. That will kill it!

Couldnt agree more

That 1 in 70 spins hurts

Stay at 9 for 3 games afterwards to recover. And u will recover

If u hit the table at the time 1 2 3 happens youll have to recover

It shouldnt get to that point often if ever

[ddarko]

If combo 213 is a loss.

213 - loss

Now combo 312 shows up
312 - loss

Dont bet 3 units in 312 combo. Its not the same combo. Every combo has it own progression. So just bet 1 unit.

Now 213 shows again.

Bet now 3 units because combo 213 had a loss earlier.

211 - win

Right, so your using a different bankroll for each combination ? Is that correct ?

If so what's the BR (for each combo) and progression, assuming you are using  a progression pls?

Thxs 



EDIT : I don't know if this is the case but are you betting every spin Ray ?

[RayManZ]

i would suggest a 100 units bankroll for each combo. Just to stay save. Also a safety bet on the zero. Just to cover your bets. It will pay off in the long run.

Use a leveller progression of 1 3 9.

When you hit the 9 just stay on it till it recovers. Shouldn't take that long.

In the test i ran it's a winning method. And if you can play all the 9 combo you don't have to wait long. You could even make it 18 combo if you use the columns too. Same results.

[ddarko]

Okay thxs for explaining that to me 

Sooooooo testing wise can we get some stats pls ?

spins tested for

Number of sessions

profit

biggest drawdown

That kinda thing ?

Thxs 

[thelaw]

Just ran a quick test using about 200 spins from some old Wiesebaden notes :

Using 1-3-9 it loses overall (this is always a bad omen when I can find a loser right out of the gate........seen this too many times)

Totals (123) : -13

Totals (321) : +06

However, it wins with a cancellation system (I used a standard Labouchere line). Largest bet 7-7.

***Note that it loses with the Labby strategy that I've used in the past, so be sure to use a standard line (EX. 1-1 / next bet 2 / 1-1-2-2 / next bet 3....etc)***

Total bets combined = 34

Most losses in a row = 5

[RouletteGhost]

Okay thxs for explaining that to me 

Sooooooo testing wise can we get some stats pls ?

spins tested for

Number of sessions

profit

biggest drawdown

That kinda thing ?

Thxs 

if u read the pages

i posted several charts i hand tested from zumma

raymazz posted stats on page 4 or 5 i think for 60,000 spins

and you have spielbank

[RouletteGhost]

Just ran a quick test using about 200 spins from some old Wiesebaden notes :

Using 1-3-9 it loses overall (this is always a bad omen when I can find a loser right out of the gate........seen this too many times)

Totals (123) : -13

Totals (321) : +06

However, it wins with a cancellation system (I used a standard Labouchere line). Largest bet 7-7.

***Note that it loses with the Labby strategy that I've used in the past, so be sure to use a standard line (EX. 1-1 / next bet 2 / 1-1-2-2 / next bet 3....etc)***

Total bets combined = 34

Most losses in a row = 5

what do you mean 5 losses in a row?

that would be a series of 123123123123123.

[ddarko]

if u read the pages

i posted several charts i hand tested from zumma

raymazz posted stats on page 4 or 5 i think for 60,000 spins

and you have spielbank

Ray's playing a different way no ?

I'd like to know his results 

Your data just showed how many times a certain combination hit in 10,000 spins correct ?

If that is correct, it doesn't tell me the profits or a biggest drawdown does it ?

That's what I'm interested in......

[thelaw]

what do you mean 5 losses in a row?

that would be a series of 123123123123123.

I thought that you were only betting for a finish of 1-2 or 3-2 (separate bets).

So the 5 losses were for finishing the sequence, thus losing 5 finishes in a row (also included a zero loss as well).

How are you dealing with a loss such as 1-2-3? Betting for the next spin to be 1 or wait for the next sequence to form?

[RouletteGhost]

I thought that you were only betting for a finish of 1-2 or 3-2 (separate bets).

So the 5 losses were for finishing the sequence, thus losing 5 finishes in a row (also included a zero loss as well).

How are you dealing with a loss such as 1-2-3? Betting for the next spin to be 1 or wait for the next sequence to form?

oh i understand now i see what you mean

well

with the original bet against 1 2 3 from occuring i just bet with 1 3 9. on a win i reset to 1 and wait until the next 3 spin mini game

in the event 123 happens id would increase my stakes to recover quickly

im thinking positive as in i just wont hit a 1 2 3

you have to hit the table at exactly the right time

[RouletteGhost]

if i had a casino to play with low stakes and not usch high minimums id play with $1 stakes

1 3 9

if lose that (once about 70 spins)

then

27 81 243

reset back to 1 after 2 wins

but i just cant do that at a $10 minimum per dozen table