Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[RouletteGhost]

Just ran a few quick tests with the following :

Bet Against :

1-2-3
2-1-3
3-1-2
2-3-1
3-2-1....then restart with 1-2-3 again followed by 2-1-3...etc

It like a constant moving target!

This is the best that I've seen so far......showed profit using 1-3-9 progression on all games

@ rfmaxx

[Orochi]

Dont find any advantage in the math results,
and done some tests with diferent play styles bets and all fail in long-run.


Sorry RG. I was hoping this could lead to someting different.

I remember that this method was tested before in "johnlegend" hit and run systems.

Sry, cant help anyone with this, i came to a dead end.

This is no beter than other methods found in this forum.

[RouletteGhost]

wow! betting previous 3 is on of the best system i've ever tried, but could you suggest me if it hits 0 ?

Yea seems to be. Over 600 spins all good. 1 loss.  If 0 shows no problem. Insurance chips

But sit out the next mini game

Doing that i havent suffered a loss except for 1 mini game 323 323

[RouletteGhost]

Sorry guys.....I got mixed up......what is the best for euro so far ?

Its all decent

The law tweaked it to a X5 see his post.  He was able to dramatically increase wins from betting static against 123

And betting against previous 3. See my chart or celes chart on how to play it

The previous 3 is proving to be a solid money maker with few losses. Not to be played on a rolling basis like the past failure systems. Must be played in mini game sets. On a rolling basis like how john legend played i believe, it failed.

[wiggy]

I tested 30 games which is nothing...but.....it did win all 30 and most of them on the first go.
What I like is how you use the combination of 123 in it's different guises because many times you will get at least two of the same dozen in any three spins. So it has to find a 123 and also in the exact order for the set you are playing against to beat you.

Here are my results.

123-222 (w)
213-331 (w)
312-331 (lw)
231-321 (w)
321-123 (w)

123-311 (w)
213-323 (w)
312-231 (w)
231-323 (w)
321-112 (w)

123-111 (lw)
213-132 (w)
312-311 (llw)
231-211 (lw)
321-112 (w)

123-323 (w)
213-221 (lw)
312-321 (lw)
231-223 (lw)
321-111 (w)

123-212 (w)
213-121 (w)
312-212 (w)
231-312 (w)
321-311 (lw)

123-232 (w)
213-311 (w)
312-222 (w)
231-332 (w)
321-121 (w)

Reading some of the posts on this thread is funny. There is no H.G. Just find a method that can make you a few quick bucks and go and enjoy dinner or a show. This is one of those where I would play until the first loss or until I made enough to pay for the dinner or show. It's all gambling at the end of the day. Well done to all those who made a positive contribution in this thread.

[RouletteGhost]

I tested 30 games which is nothing...but.....it did win all 30 and most of them on the first go.
What I like is how you use the combination of 123 in it's different guises because many times you will get at least two of the same dozen in any three spins. So it has to find a 123 and also in the exact order for the set you are playing against to beat you.

Here are my results.

123-222 (w)
213-331 (w)
312-331 (lw)
231-321 (w)
321-123 (w)

123-311 (w)
213-323 (w)
312-231 (w)
231-323 (w)
321-112 (w)

123-111 (lw)
213-132 (w)
312-311 (llw)
231-211 (lw)
321-112 (w)

123-323 (w)
213-221 (lw)
312-321 (lw)
231-223 (lw)
321-111 (w)

123-212 (w)
213-121 (w)
312-212 (w)
231-312 (w)
321-311 (lw)

123-232 (w)
213-311 (w)
312-222 (w)
231-332 (w)
321-121 (w)

Reading some of the posts on this thread is funny. There is no H.G. Just find a method that can make you a few quick bucks and go and enjoy dinner or a show. This is one of those where I would play until the first loss or until I made enough to pay for the dinner or show. It's all gambling at the end of the day. Well done to all those who made a positive contribution in this thread.

Thanks wiggy

Yes thelaws tweak is cool

When minds come together and tweak good things like this happen

I still like 123 but the law variation and betting against previous 3 is proving to be more stable

Also. U tested properly. Im testing sets of 75. Testing long term millions doesnt mean much

Against previous 3 is so good its scarey. But it must be tested and played properly

What makes laws so successful is whats the chances we will choose the exact sequence. We probably wont. So it wins as u have shown

[thelaw]

So here is where I stand with this method:

It works well, but I'm assuming that I have a sledgehammer waiting to smash my bankroll.

So bet the 1-2-3(x5) "Moving Target" method with 1-3-9 progression. I would play 5 mini-games and then move to another table.

Then on a loss (-26 units) we use Labouchere Money Management.***note that this is the key.....MM will win long-term, not bet selection***

Bankroll: 520 units (allows for 20 losses of base)

One final note: I'm not sure that we're going to get any more random than this, so Progression + Money Management are the actual HG

GLC.....if you see this post, and can add any tweaks, I would love to get your opinion......Thanks!

[RouletteGhost]

So here is where I stand with this method:

It works well, but I'm assuming that I have a sledgehammer waiting to smash my bankroll.

So bet the 1-2-3(x5) "Moving Target" method with 1-3-9 progression. I would play 5 mini-games and then move to another table.

Then on a loss (-26 units) we use Labouchere Money Management.***note that this is the key.....MM will win long-term, not bet selection***

Bankroll: 520 units (allows for 20 losses of base)

One final note: I'm not sure that we're going to get any more random than this, so Progression + Money Management are the actual HG

GLC.....if you see this post, and can add any tweaks, I would love to get your opinion......Thanks!

You're "moving target" way is simply working amazing. So is previous 3.....

[RouletteGhost]

What you did was take a new way of thinking and applied it very well

[RouletteGhost]

I will add:

No need to search for the loser. The loser will come its inevitable in roulette

The point is are we in profit before the 1 in 100 hits

No need to test 1 million spins. 100 to 200 spin sets are sufficient

If we want to make a few units a day with this it is almost a guarantee

[tonowen]

So here is where I stand with this method:

It works well, but I'm assuming that I have a sledgehammer waiting to smash my bankroll.

So bet the 1-2-3(x5) "Moving Target" method with 1-3-9 progression. I would play 5 mini-games and then move to another table.

Then on a loss (-26 units) we use Labouchere Money Management.***note that this is the key.....MM will win long-term, not bet selection***

Bankroll: 520 units (allows for 20 losses of base)

One final note: I'm not sure that we're going to get any more random than this, so Progression + Money Management are the actual HG

GLC.....if you see this post, and can add any tweaks, I would love to get your opinion......Thanks!

Could you explain how to use Labouchere for dozens and columns bet?

[RouletteGhost]

The law,

The losses are so infrequent and so spread out on your new way and the previous 3 way that when we do hit a loser we should still be in profit. And if not we can up the units and recover faster


Use a small small small base unit say $1. On a loss up it to $10 and recover in 1 or 2 mini games

There is a member who is testing live wheel. No thousands, millions spins nonsense. Real life play

He is well in profit where if he loses 1 3 9 it wouldnt hurt at all

Alternating between 123 dozens and ABC columns

So when the loss comes he can take it and still be profit or just up the unit for 1 or 2 mini games

I said this many times in this thread: we are smart enough to make a system work that fails one time every couple of hundred spins

Your moving target is perfect for that. Of COURSE we will hit a loss

Either way i just dont see a mechanical system being any better

[RouletteGhost]

With me testing hundreds of spins with no loss

Wiggy testing about 100 with no loss

Celes testing many with no loss

And the law testing hundreds of spins some with no loss

I cant understand why this isnt more popular

[nottophammer]

perhaps the sun square has attracted them again.
RG out with the old carving knife (wife), whilst waiting nipped in the bookies,looked at the last 11 spins off the 1,3,2 grouping,the last 2 groups the 1 lost, so had 1 spin to get the 4 groups done.  pushed the button 1 lost,so should have bet the 3 to lose, 1 came, so waited. next group started again the 1 lost so this time i bet the 3 would lose for 5-5 and duely won my fiver.

RG i'd say this is your cash cow

[RouletteGhost]

Nottophammer

Try the laws variation

Moving target

You will be pleasently surprised