Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[ddarko]

I cant understand why this isnt more popular

What is a surprise to me is how come onetaste hasn't posted since page1 ?

Bit strange.......

[RouletteGhost]

What is a surprise to me is how come onetaste hasn't posted since page1 ?

Bit strange.......

I believe he said he was taking a break for some months

[ddarko]

I believe he said he was taking a break for some months

Surely somebody has told how this thread has grown & grown no ?

[RouletteGhost]

I saw onetatse reading this thread the day before yesterday

[RouletteGhost]

perhaps the sun square has attracted them again.
RG out with the old carving knife (wife), whilst waiting nipped in the bookies,looked at the last 11 spins off the 1,3,2 grouping,the last 2 groups the 1 lost, so had 1 spin to get the 4 groups done.  pushed the button 1 lost,so should have bet the 3 to lose, 1 came, so waited. next group started again the 1 lost so this time i bet the 3 would lose for 5-5 and duely won my fiver.

RG i'd say this is your cash cow

Hey notto

Forgive me. Sometimes i dont understand what you are saying



But i hope sun square hasnt attracted anyone lol

I read it again. I understand what u r saying.
Very good friend

[thelaw]

Could you explain how to use Labouchere for dozens and columns bet?

So a full loss is 26 units.......then we start a line :

1(represents 26 units)

If we lose, then our line is 1-1 (52 units)-so next bet is 2 unit base bet....

If we win, then we've recouped our 26 unit loss, so we start over....

Every loss = just add first and last number on the line for new bet

[thelaw]

The law,

The losses are so infrequent and so spread out on your new way and the previous 3 way that when we do hit a loser we should still be in profit. And if not we can up the units and recover faster


Use a small small small base unit say $1. On a loss up it to $10 and recover in 1 or 2 mini games

There is a member who is testing live wheel. No thousands, millions spins nonsense. Real life play

He is well in profit where if he loses 1 3 9 it wouldnt hurt at all

Alternating between 123 dozens and ABC columns

So when the loss comes he can take it and still be profit or just up the unit for 1 or 2 mini games

I said this many times in this thread: we are smart enough to make a system work that fails one time every couple of hundred spins

Your moving target is perfect for that. Of COURSE we will hit a loss

Either way i just dont see a mechanical system being any better

I am just being conservative as I firmly believe that there is a sequence just around the corner to kill a Marti....

[RouletteGhost]

I am just being conservative as I firmly believe that there is a sequence just around the corner to kill a Marti....

With real money i play a break even. So i only win on step 1

Progression is 1 2 6

Its perfect for betting against previous 3 because most wins are on step 1 see my chart

[RouletteGhost]

In about 1 hour will post 4 tests

One against previous 3
One moving target

It will be from american zumma

Then i will do the same for euro from smart live

Total of 4 tests

[Tacwell]

What is a surprise to me is how come onetaste hasn't posted since page1 ?

Bit strange.......

Maybe he tested with millions of spins instead of hundreds.

[wiggy]

I tested 30 games which is nothing...but.....it did win all 30 and most of them on the first go.
What I like is how you use the combination of 123 in it's different guises because many times you will get at least two of the same dozen in any three spins. So it has to find a 123 and also in the exact order for the set you are playing against to beat you.

Here are my results.

123-222 (w)
213-331 (w)
312-331 (lw)
231-321 (w)
321-123 (w)

123-311 (w)
213-323 (w)
312-231 (w)
231-323 (w)
321-112 (w)

123-111 (lw)
213-132 (w)
312-311 (llw)
231-211 (lw)
321-112 (w)

123-323 (w)
213-221 (lw)
312-321 (lw)
231-223 (lw)
321-111 (w)

123-212 (w)
213-121 (w)
312-212 (w)
231-312 (w)
321-311 (lw)

123-232 (w)
213-311 (w)
312-222 (w)
231-332 (w)
321-121 (w)

Reading some of the posts on this thread is funny. There is no H.G. Just find a method that can make you a few quick bucks and go and enjoy dinner or a show. This is one of those where I would play until the first loss or until I made enough to pay for the dinner or show. It's all gambling at the end of the day. Well done to all those who made a positive contribution in this thread.

A lot of the W's seem to appear on the first or second bet.

My W/L results were as follows.

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w
l
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
l
w
w
l
l
w
l
w
w
w
l
w
l
w
l
w
w
w
w
w
w
l
w
w
w
w
w
w

The biggest gap there where you wouldn't have 2 consecutive wins was 3 bets.

So my MM would be to use a parlay bet where you are looking for 2 consecutive wins.

Here are the details including the 9 levels.

1) a.  4. 00 = 4x1. 00 win 6. 00 lose 4. 00
b.  6. 00 = 4x1. 50 win 9. 00 lose 4. 00

2) a.  8. 00 = 4x2. 00 win 12. 00 lose 12. 00
b.  12. 00 = 4x3. 00 win 18. 00 lose 12. 00

3) a.  16. 00 = 4x4. 00 win 24. 00 lose 28. 00
b.  24. 00 = 4x6. 00 win 36. 00 lose 28. 00

4) a.  24. 00 = 4x6. 00 win 36. 00 lose 52. 00
b.  36. 00 = 4x9. 00 win 54. 00 lose 52. 00

5) a.  44. 00 = 4x11. 00 win 66. 00 lose 96. 00
b.  66. 00 = 4x16. 50 win 99. 00 lose 96. 00

6) a.  80. 00 = 4x20. 00 win 120. 00 lose 176. 00
b.  120. 00 = 4x30. 00 win 180. 00 lose 176. 00

7) a.  144. 00 = 4x36. 00 win 216. 00 lose 320. 00
b.  216. 00 = 4x54. 00 win 324. 00 lose 320. 00

8} a.  260. 00 = 4x65. 00 win 390. 00 lose 580. 00
b.  390. 00 = 4x97. 50 win 585. 00 lose 580. 00

9) a.  480 = 4x120. 00 win 720. 00 lose 1060. 00
b.  720. 00 = 4x180. 00 win 1080. 00 lose 1060. 00

total bankroll needed 1060. 00


I will go through my wins and losses again and show what levels got reached.

w
w (won at level 1.)
l (lost at level 1.)
w
w (won at level 2.)
w
w (won at level 1.)
w
w (won at level 1.)
w
w (won at level 1.)
l (lost at level 1.)
w
w (won at level 2.)
l (lost at level 1.)
l (lost at level 2.)
w
l (lost at level 3.)
w
w (won at level 4.)
w
l (lost at level 1.)
w
l (lost at level 2.)
w
l (lost at level 3.)
w
w (won at level 4.)
w
w (won at level 1.)
w
w (won at level 1.)
l (lost at level 1.)
w
w (won at level 2.)
w
w (won at level 1.)
w
w (won at level 1.)

It's a hefty bankroll required but would be pretty much bombproof unless you were really unlucky. Any win at a level results in a profit and then you would reset back to level 1. The stakes may need to be slightly adjusted depending on betting restrictions in your area.

[RouletteGhost]

here it is

IT CONTINUES

not a single loss

I am not the smartest man here. nor do i claim to be. BUT I am smart enough to call something good when its good! nor do i claim it cannot lose. what I do claim is the wins will outweigh the losses.


1st chart, betting against previous 3

2nd chart, The Law's moving target

The Law, if you haven't done so yet, stand up and pat yourself on the back...because it is good

if naysayers come, do not take their word....test for YOURSELF to make a determination. we are approaching 40 pages, naysayers are enroute. so test yourselves. people will come and say it fails long term but the only holder of such claims should be YOURSELVES. If its doing good for YOU then go by that

thanks to all

these charts represent a series from the American Zumma...26 mini games ---- 78 spins

I cannot explain it but we are all experiencing majority of wins in column 1....WHY?!?!?!

what separates this from the other failed previous attempts is that its mini games and not rolling.

[RouletteGhost]

wiggy....you said dinner and a show? hehehehe how about many dinners and many shows

p.s. betting against previous 3 mini game is still proving to be superior as far as stability goes

this puppy is stellar

[nottophammer]

RG
in those 26 groups i see a 1,2,3. But dont see 1,3,2. so would 1,3,2 be the euro combo?

[RouletteGhost]

RG
in those 26 groups i see a 1,2,3. But dont see 1,3,2. so would 1,3,2 be the euro combo?

yes 123 happened once....which is expected

will happen once every 50 to 100 spins

this was using american wheel numbers so not sure

i strictly bet against previous 3 and the law tweak in those 2 tests. green is the win in the mini game