Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[RouletteGhost]

Keep testing law see what happens.

[thelaw]

Ok

Lets recap

You had

As per your prior tests on moving targets:

+75
+46
+22
+36
-38 (97 mini games. 5 lost) most recent test

So you would still be way up

Secondly the 5 losses in last test were not back to back. Therefore if using small unit size you could have upped the units on next mini game to recoup quickly

So two ways to play
1. Large units play 2 games quit
2. Small units on a loss raise units and recoup quickly

We have to be able to deal with a mini game loss effectively. They are going to happen

So for example if playin $1 chips and lose a mini game next mini game use $10.

No problems. Only solutions

Your most recent test was 97 mini games. 5 lost. In real life play you would have experienced only 1 of those losses. 293 spins is a long time!

Think about that. In a prior test you had 1 loss and still won big. Same would have happened here. You arent sticking around for 5 losses. Thats a long time

I see your point, but I've seen the wheel rear it's ugly head at the worst time.......so I would probably just stick to the 1-3-9.

At this point, it's either : go for solid wins using 1-3-9 over 100s of spins, or risk losing big with a recoup strategy.

[RouletteGhost]

I see your point, but I've seen the wheel rear it's ugly head at the worst time.......so I would probably just stick to the 1-3-9.

At this point, it's either : go for solid wins using 1-3-9 over 100s of spins, or risk losing big with a recoup strategy.

If you dont see a back to back loss. Which u havent. Then recoup will work. Use next mini game to recoup

Only time recoup wont work is if u see a back to back loss

Slim to none

In your tests have u seen back to back?

[RouletteGhost]

The way we will play in real life. Real table. Real dealer. It will win

[thelaw]

If you dont see a back to back loss. Which u havent. Then recoup will work. Use next mini game to recoup

Only time recoup wont work is if u see a back to back loss

Slim to none

In your tests have u seen back to back?

Not yet, but keep in mind, we also didn't expect 5 losses so close together.

I've seen too many systems fail when someone says-"but what are the chances this could happen?". If we used a 10x recoup bet, then we could be on the hook for 260 units........that's a bankroll killer!

I prefer to look at 100s or 1000s of spins and find a profit without the risk of killing my bankroll.

[RouletteGhost]

Not yet, but keep in mind, we also didn't expect 5 losses so close together.

I've seen too many systems fail when someone says-"but what are the chances this could happen?". If we used a 10x recoup bet, then we could be on the hook for 260 units........that's a bankroll killer!

I prefer to look at 100s or 1000s of spins and find a profit without the risk of killing my bankroll.

5 losses in 293 spins is not a killer

We have a bet selection thats the best on this forum

[thelaw]

Wiesbaden : Table #4 07.02.2015

First 10 spins :

2-9-19       against 123     Win

13-7-33     against 213     Loss

33-11-19   against 312     Loss

.............this is what I was afraid of.........

[RouletteGhost]

Every test ive done against previous 3 has been a winner except for1

[thelaw]

Every test ive done against previous 3 has been a winner except for1

Can't say that I've had the same luck......

[amk]

Havent read the entire thread.

But this concept will only fail longterm. Betting against 1,2,3 dozen formation we are using a progression of 26 units total. The pattern 1,2,3 will occur on average once every 27 patterns (3x3x3=27). So win 26 times in a row +26 then the 27th game will lose so +26 -26 = 0

I think the only way any method will win longterm is by playing it for a short amount of time then never again.

[thelaw]

Just had a thought :

What about combining a rare event with a rare event.

So you wait for 2 of the same dozen to hit, then bet against the next 3 spins with the corresponding 1-2-3 patern.

Ex:

2
2 (now bet using a 2-1-3 or 2-3-1)
3 (win)
1
3
3 (now bet using 3-2-1 or 3-1-2)
3
1
1 (win)

This allows us to use two strategies at once.

[RouletteGhost]

Beginning to realize i post for no reason

This game will always lose. No matter what. The key is overcoming the loss

You find a teriffic bet selection where you can overcome a loss and its still not good enough

We find a bet selection that wins a lot

Not good enough

Whats the point

Every good thread has the same fate after 500 posts

No matter the winning method people will come and give reasons why it wont win long term

The fate of this thread was inevitable

Im going to use these principles and win

You will not find bet selecetions with better hit rates then those in this thread

Still not good enough

Why are you all here? To find reasons why a method cannot work? Stop that bullshit. Find a way to MAKE IT WORK, not give excuses why it cant

Does negativity drive you?

MAKE IT WORK. Make the damn method work. Stop testing a million spins

Go and win for christs sake

Is this a forum of excuses or a forum of minds that seek to make something good work

[amk]

Just trying to help RG.

We find roulette interesting thats why I am here. Would never get negative only realistic.

I think the moving target should be the method we play not just a moving target within one method.

There are hundreds of methods on different forums. Play them all only once for a short time then never again.

The 1,2,3 concept was looked at extensively with CODE 4 (4 wide pattern 1,2,3,3 ect in all forms instead of 1,2,3), PATTERN BREAKER etc etc

CODE 4 will 100% fail longterm, but I am willing to gamble that I can win 100? units with it, but then never play the method again.

All methods when tested "longterm" will have many stretches were they win above average. When we start playing a method or testing a method and it is winning nicely we feel confident that we can play this method for years to come but this is not realistic unless it has been tested over a vast amount of spins and proven without a doubt to be so.

I think 90% of the time we play or test a method for the first time it will do just fine over ?500 spins perhaps ?2000 but inevitably wins and losses will average out, this is the name of the game.

I am just saying play a method for a short amount of time or until you lose a certain amount then never play the method again.

I think we might just come out ahead.

If anything, as you say, at least we are playing : )

[Tacwell]

Havent read the entire thread.

But this concept will only fail longterm. Betting against 1,2,3 dozen formation we are using a progression of 26 units total. The pattern 1,2,3 will occur on average once every 27 patterns (3x3x3=27).

Yet when we provide test data to back this up we get told our results are impossible and our tests are rubbish and we're only here to discredit his winning system.

[RouletteGhost]

Good luck