Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[bigtim08]

Been following this post for the last week or so, looks very interesting results.
So I have been manually testing it against some of my passed numbers from the casino, as I record all spins while I play.
In about 250  mini games it only lost twice.

But both losses where on triple repeats such as 222 followed by 222.
Did anyone else experience this loss pattern more than others?
If so we could just skip playing a triple pattern

[RouletteGhost]

just did 26 mini games

american zumma

moving target...............speaks for itself

my personality type is to continuously justify something...thats my flaw....when i know something is good i will harp and harp and harp....

this sequence also beats previous 3....

[RouletteGhost]

Been following this post for the last week or so, looks very interesting results.
So I have been manually testing it against some of my passed numbers from the casino, as I record all spins while I play.
In about 250  mini games it only lost twice.

But both losses where on triple repeats such as 222 followed by 222.
Did anyone else experience this loss pattern more than others?
If so we could just skip playing a triple pattern

same here....i had 2 random losses betting against previous 3........but not in 250 spins it was about 1000

you did good....in this game if we can only suffer two losses every 250 spin we are golden

[thelaw]

just did 26 mini games

american zumma

moving target...............speaks for itself

my personality type is to continuously justify something...thats my flaw....when i know something is good i will harp and harp and harp....

this sequence also beats previous 3....

Look at all of those first round finishes!

[RouletteGhost]

Look at all of those first round finishes!

yessir

betting against any sequence always has 3rd bet wins

i cannot explain why betting against previous 3 rarely makes it to the 3rd bet thats why i say its more stable

there more to it then what meets the eye....

66% chance of winning COMBINED with betting the pattern wont repeat

[RouletteGhost]

Been following this post for the last week or so, looks very interesting results.
So I have been manually testing it against some of my passed numbers from the casino, as I record all spins while I play.
In about 250  mini games it only lost twice.

But both losses where on triple repeats such as 222 followed by 222.
Did anyone else experience this loss pattern more than others?
If so we could just skip playing a triple pattern

if you like the principles in this thread...try 123, try the laws variation, and try against the previous 3 to see which one you like the most

[celescliff]

Anyone tested to skip the third bet? 8 units is much less painful than 26. Just a thought.

[RouletteGhost]

Anyone tested to skip the third bet? 8 units is much less painful than 26. Just a thought.

Absolutely. I think betting only the first 2 bets of a mini game is genius. Lose 1st bet. Then bet 2nd. Win or lose sit out third spin

Makes reouping that much better

Winning on 3rd spin has proven to be much rarer then 1st or 2nd.

So if using 1 euro or dollar and lose, up to 10 euro or dollars next mini game and bam all your profit is back next mini game

That way is successful on all my charts where we bet 1st and 2nd if lose both UP the units next mini game

Very nice

[RouletteGhost]

"Cause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet big, then you take the house."

Play long enough, millions of spins the house takes you

Go in with a spectacular bet selection. Then get out quick. And you will always win.

When the perfect hand comes along is when we sit down and bet against previous 3. Stay long enough? You will LOSE

Use the principles in this thread coupled with short sessions and you WILL COME AHEAD i promise you that. if you stay 300 spins then you are asking for the sledgehamma

[GLC]

RG and fellow members, here's a very safe progression method for double dozens that's a slight twist on Lanky's 6 point divisor.  It's like the very opposite of a martingale.

Instead of starting out with 6/6, we start out with 1/6.  Nothing special about the six, it could be any number.  All the 1/6 means is that we're trying to win 1 unit in 6 attempts.  If we lose a bet, we add the number of units lost on that bet to the dividend (1 in this case) and add 1 to the divisor.  If we win a bet, we subtract the number of units won from the dividend and subtract 1 from the divisor.  When the dividend is zero, you've won your unit.  Reset.

Example:  Let's start with 1/3 meaning that we're trying to win 1 unit in bets and we're playing double dozen bets.  1 divided by 3 is 1 or less (always round up) so we bet 1-1 on our 2 dozens.  A win and we've reached our goal and can reset.  But if we lose, we lose 2 units which are added to the 1 and we have 3/4.  Remember we have to add a bet to the divisor.  Now we have to win 3 units in 4 bets.  3 divided by 4 is still 1 or less so again we bet 1-1 on our dozens.  Let's say we get a win.  That means we win 1 unit which we subtract from the 3 and we also subtract 1 from the 4 giving us 2/3 for our equation.  It means that now we must win 2 units in 3 bets.  Another win leaves us with 1/2.  A loss gives us 3/3.  A win = 2/2.  A loss gives us 4/3.  Oops 4/3 is more than 1 but less that 2 so we must bet 2 units on each dozen.  Another loss and our equation is 8/4.  This is another 2 unit bet which gives us 6/3.  Another 2 unit bet with a win gives us 4/2.  Another 2 unit win gives us 2/1 and a final 2 unit win gives us 0/0 which means we won our 1 unit.

This can be a grinder of all grinders, but it can also reach some pretty large bets.  Any time your bets get too large for your comfort, just add 1 or more to the divisor and it will bring your bet size down quite a bit.  It also means you are increasing the number of bets to reach your win goal, so be prepared to play for a little longer.

I've had nothing but good luck with this bet progression method.  Can it get out of hand?  Of course.  But if you're willing to stay with it, you can keep adding numbers to the divisor.  What will cause you to lose is if you get so deep in the hole that you have too large a number of bets to win you're target that it will take days to pull out ahead, so to speak.  At any point you can just take a loss and start a new attack.

Think about it and tell me what you think?

GLC

[thelaw]

RG and fellow members, here's a very safe progression method for double dozens that's a slight twist on Lanky's 6 point divisor.  It's like the very opposite of a martingale.

Instead of starting out with 6/6, we start out with 1/6.  Nothing special about the six, it could be any number.  All the 1/6 means is that we're trying to win 1 unit in 6 attempts.  If we lose a bet, we add the number of units lost on that bet to the dividend (1 in this case) and add 1 to the divisor.  If we win a bet, we subtract the number of units won from the dividend and subtract 1 from the divisor.  When the dividend is zero, you've won your unit.  Reset.

Example:  Let's start with 1/3 meaning that we're trying to win 1 unit in bets and we're playing double dozen bets.  1 divided by 3 is 1 or less (always round up) so we bet 1-1 on our 2 dozens.  A win and we've reached our goal and can reset.  But if we lose, we lose 2 units which are added to the 1 and we have 3/4.  Remember we have to add a bet to the divisor.  Now we have to win 3 units in 4 bets.  3 divided by 4 is still 1 or less so again we bet 1-1 on our dozens.  Let's say we get a win.  That means we win 1 unit which we subtract from the 3 and we also subtract 1 from the 4 giving us 2/3 for our equation.  It means that now we must win 2 units in 3 bets.  Another win leaves us with 1/2.  A loss gives us 3/3.  A win = 2/2.  A loss gives us 4/3.  Oops 4/3 is more than 1 but less that 2 so we must bet 2 units on each dozen.  Another loss and our equation is 8/4.  This is another 2 unit bet which gives us 6/3.  Another 2 unit bet with a win gives us 4/2.  Another 2 unit win gives us 2/1 and a final 2 unit win gives us 0/0 which means we won our 1 unit.

This can be a grinder of all grinders, but it can also reach some pretty large bets.  Any time your bets get too large for your comfort, just add 1 or more to the divisor and it will bring your bet size down quite a bit.  It also means you are increasing the number of bets to reach your win goal, so be prepared to play for a little longer.

I've had nothing but good luck with this bet progression method.  Can it get out of hand?  Of course.  But if you're willing to stay with it, you can keep adding numbers to the divisor.  What will cause you to lose is if you get so deep in the hole that you have too large a number of bets to win you're target that it will take days to pull out ahead, so to speak.  At any point you can just take a loss and start a new attack.

Think about it and tell me what you think?

GLC

Hey GLC,

This is exactly what this method needed. Much appreciated!

In your experience, what's a good bankroll for this progression to cover the "out of hand" moments?

Thanks!

[Orochi]

"Cause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet big, then you take the house."

Play long enough, millions of spins the house takes you

Go in with a spectacular bet selection. Then get out quick. And you will always win.

When the perfect hand comes along is when we sit down and bet against previous 3. Stay long enough? You will LOSE

Use the principles in this thread coupled with short sessions and you WILL COME AHEAD i promise you that. if you stay 300 spins then you are asking for the sledgehamma

RG you are wrong, hit and run will catch u same day.
I could see 2/3 losses several times in 90 spins in my chart numbers from my local casino.
I play almost every day at the casino, and like to test new methods.
Tested this one low stakes 4 times playing around 100 spins per day, and it fail.

If u want the 4k$ TV try your luck.

To me hit and run = gambler luck

[wiggy]

Hello RG and all.

I will need to split this into two posts because it's long. The first post is my results from a casino visit which were unfortunately not very good and the second post is possibly a solution.

I will list the results including the wins and losses for the 11-33-99 progression and also for my 9 level parlay MM.

123-311 w
213-231 lw
312-123 w  level2
231-222 lw
321-323 llw

123-213 w  level4
213-213 lll
312-312 lll
231-211 lw
321-123 w  level8

123-222 w
213-233 lw
312-113 w  level2
231-211 lw
321-322 llw

123-323 w  level4
213-232 lw
312-321 lw
231-212 lw
321-232 w  level4

123-333 w
213-332 w  level1
312-132 w
231-211 lw
321-211 w  level2

123-321 w
213-113 w  level1
312-312 lll
231-322 w
321-311 lw

123-122 llw
213-313 w  level7
312-221 w
231-213 lw
321-212 w  level2

123-132 lw
213-211 llw
312-321 lw
231-131 w  level5
321-232 w

That comes to +37 for the wins and -78 for the 3 losses giving a total of -41.

Seeing a double loss was a bit of a shock, but that's what can happen. I tried to work out the odds of it and I think it's around 720/1. So I should be proud I hit it on games 6 and 7. 

Anyway, that's the bad news!! Some good news in the next post.

[RouletteGhost]

Hello RG and all.

I will need to split this into two posts because it's long. The first post is my results from a casino visit which were unfortunately not very good and the second post is possibly a solution.

I will list the results including the wins and losses for the 11-33-99 progression and also for my 9 level parlay MM.

123-311 w
213-231 lw
312-123 w  level2
231-222 lw
321-323 llw

123-213 w  level4
213-213 lll
312-312 lll
231-211 lw
321-123 w  level8

123-222 w
213-233 lw
312-113 w  level2
231-211 lw
321-322 llw

123-323 w  level4
213-232 lw
312-321 lw
231-212 lw
321-232 w  level4

123-333 w
213-332 w  level1
312-132 w
231-211 lw
321-211 w  level2

123-321 w
213-113 w  level1
312-312 lll
231-322 w
321-311 lw

123-122 llw
213-313 w  level7
312-221 w
231-213 lw
321-212 w  level2

123-132 lw
213-211 llw
312-321 lw
231-131 w  level5
321-232 w

That comes to +37 for the wins and -78 for the 3 losses giving a total of -41.

Seeing a double loss was a bit of a shock, but that's what can happen. I tried to work out the odds of it and I think it's around 720/1. So I should be proud I hit it on games 6 and 7. 

Anyway, that's the bad news!! Some good news in the next post.

3 total losses

What i would do is

Use small units. Then increase unit size to recoup. Many many many more wins

Im a believer in stay 3 to 4 games then leave. You stayed a long time

[thelaw]

3 total losses

What i would do is

Use small units. Then increase unit size to recoup. Many many many more wins

Perhaps it would be wise to move to another table after a loss if you a using a Marti.....

If not, as I warned many times on this thread, the sledgehammer awaits........