Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[RouletteGhost]

I agree 100%, but I was giving my opinion on a hit-and-run strategy, which I don't personally play.

I always test playing through as I want to get hit with the sledgehammer and learn how to survive............that's my definition of a HG!

Spot on

P.s. using small units thrn upping the unit after a loss is a sure way.......the back to back loss is rare

[nottophammer]

Law

Everyone has a view, and mine is no better than anyone elses....however

A table produces random numbers, and to move to another table isnt to reset your personal numbers from the last table, its just to play the next random number.

Its not Bananas, where they vary slightly in ripeness or size, even though they are all Bananas

Its a random number. It has no distinguishing features from any other.

What  do you think?

Hold on it does have  distinguishing features, its part of a dozen, its a colour, its in a column, and gives members info, Like Kattila said

[nottophammer]

So this looks like a disaster in set 2. But flat bet the 60 spins and you get 41 wins. Like allgood politicans we can make it look good.
Take the 1st 10 spins flat bet  20 units out only 12 units back , but keep going, next 10 spins 20 units out, look 27 units back,only 1 unit down. now next 10 spins 20 out 24 back, so plus 3, we only want 1 unit of what ever size you want,then on to next machine or live wheel, where i believe these #'s came from,Wiggy
But you win the 1 unit on spin 1, so like RG in/then off

[nottophammer]

heres the sheet

[RouletteGhost]

So this looks like a disaster in set 2. But flat bet the 60 spins and you get 41 wins. Like allgood politicans we can make it look good.
Take the 1st 10 spins flat bet  20 units out only 12 units back , but keep going, next 10 spins 20 units out, look 27 units back,only 1 unit down. now next 10 spins 20 out 24 back, so plus 3, we only want 1 unit of what ever size you want,then on to next machine or live wheel, where i believe these #'s came from,Wiggy
But you win the 1 unit on spin 1, so like RG in/then off

Go for 2 to 4 wins and move on

Any mechanical strategy we create will fail in the long run

The key is a bet selection that is so solid we can get in and out with a quick profit. Thats why i dont test a zillion spins

[nottophammer]

RG
Those 2 60spin sheets show flat bet is ok, a long the piece of string as been mentioned,theres a place to bail out with 1 unit.

[RouletteGhost]

RG
Those 2 60spin sheets show flat bet is ok, a long the piece of string as been mentioned,theres a place to bail out with 1 unit.

Very good

I played real money once using these principles

Played progression 1 2 6

Only win on step 1 rest break even

Switch airball machines on win. I have over 10 airball machines

[nottophammer]

Rich
in daily live spin data i've never left page1 showimg the 185 captures. So i've gone to page 3 reply 31, 4 spins play 1,3,2 win 1unit, off we go

[RouletteGhost]

Rich
in daily live spin data i've never left page1 showimg the 185 captures. So i've gone to page 3 reply 31, 4 spins play 1,3,2 win 1unit, off we go

[GLC]

Hey GLC,

This is exactly what this method needed. Much appreciated!

In your experience, what's a good bankroll for this progression to cover the "out of hand" moments?

Thanks!

TheLaw,  I haven't played this system using this progression idea and I, unfortunately, don't have time since everything I do is by hand.  It's a very versatile method because if you want to make it more aggressive, you can add an extra unit on each loss.  This will get you back to profit with fewer wins, but larger bets.  If you are having a very bad loss to win ratio, you can add more to your divisor and then when you have a good run, you can add more to your dividend.

Each person who likes this idea should  test it for themselves so they determine how it performs and how much they want to risk on it.  It'll take some time and in the end, you may not like and will scrap the idea.  It's just an option to the martingale progression.

This bet method can be played on any bet location, e.c.s, dozens, lines, splits or multiples of these like 5 lines or 11 streets etc...

GLC

[hermbob]

Tales from the field...

I've been following this thread for weeks now (made a couple posts in the early going as well), doing independent testing of betting against 1, 2, 3 (continuously, re-setting after a win and not sitting out the remainder of the mini-game) using the 1-3-9 progression. Been having FANTASTIC results testing it this way, so today I finally decided to take it for a spin at a real casino that's about an hour and 15 minutes up the road. I just got home from said trip.

Anyway, I get there and sit down at the Roulette Evolution table, of which there are two at this particular casino. The plan was to win 4 units, go on over to the next Roulette Evolution table, win 4 more units, and skedaddle on home. 8 units will more than cover my gas money. So I proceed to play with $10 units. I win the first 3 spins, get up 3 units and just need 1 more...and then it happens. 1, 2, 3 right in a row. I figure that was just bad timing, hey it'll happen to everybody at some point...my time just happened to be sooner than everybody else's.

So, licking my wounds, I get up and head to the other table. I literally play ONLY 3 spins...you guessed it...no wins, straight 1, 2, 3, right in a row AGAIN. Bam, I'm done.

Summary:  9 spins, 2 sledgehammers, -49 units (-$500) in about 15 minutes. It took me more time to walk from table 1 to table 2 than it did to lose my two sequences.

Once in a blue moon flash of bad luck? Perhaps....but looks like it's back to the drawing board for me. Guess I'll check out this bet selection playing with a Labby or look in to GLC's recently posted progression.

I do believe that the right answer (perhaps naively, perhaps not) lies with playing the dozens, and I do believe in this bet selection, but it CAN happen. It's just whether it WILL happen to you while you happen to be sitting at the table. In my case, I seem to have a knack of testing progressions, figuring out something that works in testing, and having it immediately blow up on the first run at the casino.

I know people gamble for a living, and I do believe the HG is out there. Perhaps we're close. I look forward to seeing what finally comes of this thread...

[nottophammer]

Herm
if i had been you i would have back tracked the marquee with the combo of choice,just out of curiosity to see how the combo was doing. You might have seen it not doing anygood and gone to the other table

[keepontryin]

take a look at 3 reversal...........i should have posted it here

[RouletteGhost]

Tales from the field...

I've been following this thread for weeks now (made a couple posts in the early going as well), doing independent testing of betting against 1, 2, 3 (continuously, re-setting after a win and not sitting out the remainder of the mini-game) using the 1-3-9 progression. Been having FANTASTIC results testing it this way, so today I finally decided to take it for a spin at a real casino that's about an hour and 15 minutes up the road. I just got home from said trip.

Anyway, I get there and sit down at the Roulette Evolution table, of which there are two at this particular casino. The plan was to win 4 units, go on over to the next Roulette Evolution table, win 4 more units, and skedaddle on home. 8 units will more than cover my gas money. So I proceed to play with $10 units. I win the first 3 spins, get up 3 units and just need 1 more...and then it happens. 1, 2, 3 right in a row. I figure that was just bad timing, hey it'll happen to everybody at some point...my time just happened to be sooner than everybody else's.

So, licking my wounds, I get up and head to the other table. I literally play ONLY 3 spins...you guessed it...no wins, straight 1, 2, 3, right in a row AGAIN. Bam, I'm done.

Summary:  9 spins, 2 sledgehammers, -49 units (-$500) in about 15 minutes. It took me more time to walk from table 1 to table 2 than it did to lose my two sequences.

Once in a blue moon flash of bad luck? Perhaps....but looks like it's back to the drawing board for me. Guess I'll check out this bet selection playing with a Labby or look in to GLC's recently posted progression.

I do believe that the right answer (perhaps naively, perhaps not) lies with playing the dozens, and I do believe in this bet selection, but it CAN happen. It's just whether it WILL happen to you while you happen to be sitting at the table. In my case, I seem to have a knack of testing progressions, figuring out something that works in testing, and having it immediately blow up on the first run at the casino.

I know people gamble for a living, and I do believe the HG is out there. Perhaps we're close. I look forward to seeing what finally comes of this thread...

Hey hermbob. Try 132 for euro. Me and nottophammer had success with that on euro wheels

Good luck and thanks for the results

Lots of good ideas in this thread. But at the end of the day its about luck. Will it hit the second u start to play?

Im continuously testing against previous 3. But i see you said you dont play the mini game but you reset and start over on a win. If you decide to play against previous 3 sequence dont do that, only play it in mini games. Most wins are in column 1. So play that the mini game way if you choose to play it. What separates this from past failures is not playing on a rolling basis. Sets of 3 only

[celescliff]

Did great today. I've had best success by first betting against the last three dozen and then betting against the last three columns next mini game.