Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[thelaw]

Did great today. I've had best success by first betting against the last three dozen and then betting against the last three columns next mini game.

I'm seeing nearly 3/4 first round wins......

[RouletteGhost]

Did great today. I've had best success by first betting against the last three dozen and then betting against the last three columns next mini game.

Celescliff. Awesome results. Our results are very similar. As law points out many 1st and 2nd wins. Rarely 3rd. Good news there

I have not tested columns really. But i should

You are the 2nd person i know of playing 123 then ABC then 123 then ABC.

Closest we are going to get to a HG on a mechanical system

[MrJ]

Who is "we", just curious.

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

Who is "we", just curious.

Ken

"We" is whoever uses it.....

[RFMAXX]

i still think grassroots played with pinwheel numbers is a winner...since testing, no loser
with 3,2,1. of course...3,2,1 shows...but then i bet against and it recovers every time.
i need an excel tracker to test more spins...i test it by hand.
normy...can you make this excel fully automated?
will do more tests of course.

[RouletteGhost]

i still think grassroots played with pinwheel numbers is a winner...since testing, no loser
with 3,2,1. of course...3,2,1 shows...but then i bet against and it recovers every time.
i need an excel tracker to test more spins...i test it by hand.
normy...can you make this excel fully automated?
will do more tests of course.

Awesome results. I have yet to test pinwheel....i feel like its harder to throw down 24 chips?

I would hand test as you are. Its more real world compatible

[thelaw]

i still think grassroots played with pinwheel numbers is a winner...since testing, no loser
with 3,2,1. of course...3,2,1 shows...but then i bet against and it recovers every time.
i need an excel tracker to test more spins...i test it by hand.
normy...can you make this excel fully automated?
will do more tests of course.

How many spins total have you tested this?

[RouletteGhost]

How many spins total have you tested this?

If im not mistaken we are throwin down 24 chips?

[thelaw]

If im not mistaken we are throwin down 24 chips?

I meant total spins (100-1000)....

[RouletteGhost]

The law

I think we should test these principles (123, 123 X5, and aginst previous 3) on columns as well?

Celescliff has much success against previous 3 on columns it seems

[thelaw]

The law

I think we should test these principles (123, 123 X5, and aginst previous 3) on columns as well?

My concern would be diminishing returns.........unless we have some evidence that the added columns provide a superior bet.

So far (based on my limited testing) I think :

-the simple 1-2-3 is too risky

-the simple Marti 1-3-9 is too risky

-the Moving Target 1-2-3 appears to be more stable, but still too risky with a simple Marti

-the previous 3 looks good initially, but shows major repeating patterns long-term, unless we skip certain bets (like 111-222-333)-I saw this in my previous tests yeas ago where the last 3 dozens strategy took some very hard hits

-GLC's reverse Divisor progression appears to be the safest bet by far for this type of betting

Options moving forward :

+ Combo dozens + Columns (only if it shows a better hit rate)

+ Bet first round only (although statistically this should be no better than round 2 or round 3)-perhaps each round is a separate continuous game (ex. all 1st rounds = continuous game)

+ Solid MM strategy

[wiggy]

Hello,

I have started a seperate thread entitled ''different bet selection ideas for the 11-33-99 progression''

I came up with an idea for the streets and didn't want to stray of the dozens path that is going on in this thread.

cheers

[RouletteGhost]

My concern would be diminishing returns.........unless we have some evidence that the added columns provide a superior bet.

So far (based on my limited testing) I think :

-the simple 1-2-3 is too risky

-the simple Marti 1-3-9 is too risky

-the Moving Target 1-2-3 appears to be more stable, but still too risky with a simple Marti

-the previous 3 looks good initially, but shows major repeating patterns long-term, unless we skip certain bets (like 111-222-333)-I saw this in my previous tests yeas ago where the last 3 dozens strategy took some very hard hits

-GLC's reverse Divisor progression appears to be the safest bet by far for this type of betting

Options moving forward :

+ Combo dozens + Columns (only if it shows a better hit rate)

+ Bet first round only (although statistically this should be no better than round 2 or round 3)-perhaps each round is a separate continuous game (ex. all 1st rounds = continuous game)

+ Solid MM strategy

I agree with most of that

But i dont agree that its "too risky"

If played with good MM its one of the least risky methods ive ever seen

To add to moving forward- try columns alone no dozens. Try nottos 132 on euro

[nottophammer]

Do people test 1,3,2 on euro or just 1,2,3.
Now never really bothered looking over 00 wheel, know you see say 1 by 00 opposite end 0 2, so both 1's.
So if we look from 2 up to 8 we see the combo 1,2,3  can be placed 6 times, so opposite must be the same, 1 to 7. Can this help 1,2,3 combo.

Now the euro wheel placement is bit  a different.
If you start at 31 up to 32, marked 3 you'll see 1=4,3=6,2=2 so a good section if doz2 is sleeping and croupier is stuck in this section.

[RouletteGhost]

Do people test 1,3,2 on euro or just 1,2,3.
Now never really bothered looking over 00 wheel, know you see say 1 by 00 opposite end 0 2, so both 1's.
So if we look from 2 up to 8 we see the combo 1,2,3  can be placed 6 times, so opposite must be the same, 1 to 7. Can this help 1,2,3 combo.

Now the euro wheel placement is bit  a different.
If you start at 31 up to 32, marked 3 you'll see 1=4,3=6,2=2 so a good section if doz2 is sleeping and croupier is stuck in this section.

Original poster is in the US. So the bet against 123 is designed for american wheel

I found 123 hits much more frequent on euro

If u see all my charts in this thread 123 on american is like 1 in 100

Gut feeling tells me to test columns....