Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[nottophammer]

A bit untidy and low on ink.

you can see how close 1,2,3 are

[RouletteGhost]

Did great today. I've had best success by first betting against the last three dozen and then betting against the last three columns next mini game.

Prime example why you test for yourself and dont listen when people say "sorry it fails long term"

Do your own thing

Love seeing your charts

[thelaw]

Quick Update:

Just ran a few tests using GLC's suggested progression.

Although it works pretty well, it can turn into a major grind........possibly taking hours to fully recoup a major bad run. This is the one major drawback with any conservative approach. This is why I abandoned the original Divisor Method; it technically never loses..........just takes too long to get back to even.

I would say that the Divisor Method is perfect for anyone looking to play roulette as a business long-term. Tedious........but you can squeeze out a few units per hour consistently.

[RouletteGhost]

Quick Update:

Just ran a few tests using GLC's suggested progression.

Although it works pretty well, it can turn into a major grind........possibly taking hours to fully recoup a major bad run. This is the one major drawback with any conservative approach. This is why I abandoned the original Divisor Method; it technically never loses..........just takes too long to get back to even.

I would say that the Divisor Method is perfect for anyone looking to play roulette as a business long-term. Tedious........but you can squeeze out a few units per hour consistently.

Shame on me. Shame on me

As a major promoter of lankys matrix i still dont grasp the divisor.   

[jbudd32]

i still think grassroots played with pinwheel numbers is a winner...since testing, no loser
with 3,2,1. of course...3,2,1 shows...but then i bet against and it recovers every time.
i need an excel tracker to test more spins...i test it by hand.

normy...can you make this excel fully automated?
will do more tests of course.

Great Results. I am wondering on why the  Pin Wheel Numbers were picked in that order. As there are not equal amounts in each dozen.

I picked out 3 sets of 12 numbers with each having 4 numbers in each dozen.
I have memorised them completely so throwing down 12 chips or 24 is a breeze now. When a number comes i know Exactly which set it is in.
Sets tend to repeat fairly often so thats my plan of attack,
But after reading all this post, i am looking at The Grass Root method and mini games using my own Sets of 12.

Interesting stuff so far.

[RouletteGhost]

Great Results. I am wondering on why the  Pin Wheel Numbers were picked in that order. As there are not equal amounts in each dozen.

I picked out 3 sets of 12 numbers with each having 4 numbers in each dozen.
I have memorised them completely so throwing down 12 chips or 24 is a breeze now. When a number comes i know Exactly which set it is in.
Sets tend to repeat fairly often so thats my plan of attack,
But after reading all this post, i am looking at The Grass Root method and mini games using my own Sets of 12.

Interesting stuff so far.

Indeed

The only negative to playing pinwheel way is we have to lay 24 chips in short time!

[jbudd32]

True.... Depends in which wheel or casino your playing at online. Some sites have an option where you can save bets... Upto maybe 4 or 6. Which is great.
If in casino, it shouldnt be a problem, i can get 24 chips down in 30 seconds.

[jbudd32]

Such a shame Dublinbet took the saved bet feature away. But still its no sweat.

In a Nutshell the Grass Roots idea is betting on the last two Dozen/Columns
What if there are repeaters, do you look the furthest back to find other Dozen?

[RouletteGhost]

On my airball machines i can get 24 down. Its tough but i can.

Sometimes the touchscreens are weird and when you press a chip down it gets put on the number next to it which is frustrating. For example you will touch the center of #3 and the chip goes on #2. Faulty screens

I also have 30 seconds.

[jbudd32]

Yeh frustrating for sure, touch screens can be a pain, do you only play Airball?

[RouletteGhost]

Yeh frustrating for sure, touch screens can be a pain, do you only play Airball?

Yea my local casino is strictly touch screen airball. More touchscreens malfunction then not so i like playing dozens on them

There are some video roulette machines with a big 80 inch TV but i avoid the rng

[RouletteGhost]

In terms of betting against 123 i think playing 1 mini game on dozens then next mini game on columns is a great idea

123 happens back to back very rarely so its good for recouping

Very rare to see 123 dozens then immediately 123 columns? Chances are slim to none?

If using low chip values we can up the chip value on any mini game loss on the following mini game to recoup

See celescliff chart. Alternating between dozens and columns. Genius? A great way to apply grassroots

We can also play this way against previous 3

[jbudd32]

Great Results again, will have to give this a Whirl.

When you say 1-2-3, they can be in any order? Like 3-2-1 or 2-1-3 etc??

I have seen a fair amount of back to back 1-2-3 not neccesssarily in that order but have seen it a lot (european Wheel)

I Remember seeing a thread on another site, the system was called Project X by Amrik, was a massive thread, i worked out What his betting triggers were and it was actually looking for the 1-2-3 combo. His trigger was waiting for 2 dozens or columns to stop repeating,
So 15,16,31..... Or 2,2,3 in Dozens terms, then you would bet on the sequence actually becoming 2,3,1... So betting in single Dozens.
Interesting concept and great to see this thread doing the opposite.

Maybe something in it? Not sure, but i'm very interested in this thread so am Locked Down in Test Mode.

[RouletteGhost]

Great Results again, will have to give this a Whirl.

When you say 1-2-3, they can be in any order? Like 3-2-1 or 2-1-3 etc??

I have seen a fair amount of back to back 1-2-3 not neccesssarily in that order but have seen it a lot (european Wheel)

I Remember seeing a thread on another site, the system was called Project X by Amrik, was a massive thread, i worked out What his betting triggers were and it was actually looking for the 1-2-3 combo. His trigger was waiting for 2 dozens or columns to stop repeating,
So 15,16,31..... Or 2,2,3 in Dozens terms, then you would bet on the sequence actually becoming 2,3,1... So betting in single Dozens.
Interesting concept and great to see this thread doing the opposite.

Maybe something in it? Not sure, but i'm very interested in this thread so am Locked Down in Test Mode.

We are litet betting against 123

spin 1 Bet dozen 2 and 3
Spin 2 bet dozen 1 and 3
Spin 3 bet dozen 1 and 2

That simple

Variations are
-bet against 132
-bet against previous 3
-alternate between dozens and columns 2 members doing that 1 not posting in this thread

Go through the whole thread and ignore the BS

[nottophammer]

Great Results again, will have to give this a Whirl.

When you say 1-2-3, they can be in any order? Like 3-2-1 or 2-1-3 etc??

I have seen a fair amount of back to back 1-2-3 not neccesssarily in that order but have seen it a lot (european Wheel)

I Remember seeing a thread on another site, the system was called Project X by Amrik, was a massive thread, i worked out What his betting triggers were and it was actually looking for the 1-2-3 combo. His trigger was waiting for 2 dozens or columns to stop repeating,
So 15,16,31..... Or 2,2,3 in Dozens terms, then you would bet on the sequence actually becoming 2,3,1... So betting in single Dozens.
Interesting concept and great to see this thread doing the opposite.

Maybe something in it? Not sure, but i'm very interested in this thread so am Locked Down in Test Mode.

Try 1,3,2