Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[nottophammer]

That's correct Notto...

Are these real data ? ( 60 minigames with only 3 bets)

Rng spins in ladbrokes on 1/12/2015

That means if you wait the first 2 spins of each minigame. ...and bet for a repeat on the third spin...........I think you know the rest right? 

Just got some time  Den to look over some more old rng spins, to good to be true

1   6   1   
2   30   3   
3   6   1   w
4   16   2   
5   14   2   
6   24   2   nb
7   30   3   
8   29   3   
9   33   3   nb
10   7   1   
11   16   2   
12   3   1   w
13   3   1   
14   18   2   
15   2   1   w
16   25   3   
17   6   1   
18   5   1   w
19   22   2   
20   21   2   
21   10   1   nb
22   22   2   
23   25   3   
24   19   2   w
25   15   2   
26   3   1   
27   24   2   w
28   2   1   
29   14   2   
30   15   2   w
31   19   2   
32   11   1   
33   14   2   w
34   35   3   
35   34   3   
36   22   2   nb
37   7   1   
38   19   2   
39   19   2   w
40   3   1   
41   12   1   
42   9   1   nb
43   20   2   
44   4   1   
45   10   1   w
46   33   3   
47   29   3   
48   33   3   nb
49   7   1   
50   8   1   
51   15   2   nb
52   31   3   
53   24   2   
54   34   3   w
55   36   3   
56   6   1   
57   35   3   w
58   17   2   
59   23   2   
60   19   2   nb
         

[nottophammer]

Live spins Aspers MK
1   33   3   
2   2   1   
3   18   2   L
4   12   1   
5   13   2   
6   29   3   L
7   25   3   
8   4   1   
9   26   3   W
10   15   2   
11   21   2   
12   20   2   NB
13   8   1   
14   16   2   
15   12   1   W
16   34   3   
17   9   1   
18   18   2   L
19   30   3   
20   20   2   
21   30   3   W
22   7   1   
23   14   2   
24   12   1   W
25   13   2   
26   22   2   
27   12   1   NB
28   29   3   
29   21   2   
30   35   3   W
31   20   2   
32   23   2   
33   19   2   NB
34   34   3   
35   2   1   
36   16   2   L
37   7   1   
38   16   2   
39   21   2   W
40   25   3   
41   19   2   
42   4   1   L
43   33   3   
44   20   2   
45   32   3   W
46   24   2   
47   3   1   
48   14   2   W
49   0   0   
50   29   3   
51   13   2   NB

[RouletteGhost]

Notto,

What you are doing right there is when having 2 unique dozens in a row betting those 2 dozens, betting the 3rd spin wont be unique from those 2

It is a good way to play. But be careful

Be ready with a recovery roll

You will see about 5 unique per hour ex. 321

Be ready for 5 losses every 50 to 100 spins

Good for hit and run?

[denzie]

31 -4 bet 3/1
22-1 bet 2/1
1-16 bet 1/2
1-6 bet 1/choose one
32-22 bet 3/2
12-0 bet 1/ choose one
Etc....all flat.

You had 3 bets in 60 minigames. ...go look them again and count your profit.
You might like it 

[celescliff]

Looks good, very promising indeed. I will test this this week, with flat aswell. 

[ptzelepis]

31 -4 bet 3/1
22-1 bet 2/1
1-16 bet 1/2
1-6 bet 1/choose one
32-22 bet 3/2
12-0 bet 1/ choose one
Etc....all flat.

You had 3 bets in 60 minigames. ...go look them again and count your profit.
You might like it 

Maybe I'm a little stupid sorry...but I don't understand the above.....can you please explain ?

[celescliff]

Maybe I'm a little stupid sorry...but I don't understand the above.....can you please explain ?

31 -4 bet 3/1                   31 = 3rd dozen, 4 = 1 Dozen so you bet 1 and 3 dozen
22-1 bet 2/1                    22 = 2nd dozen, 1 = 1 Dozen so you bet the 2 and 1 dozen
1-16 bet 1/2                    1   = 1st dozen, 16 = 2nd Dozen so you bet the 1 and 2 dozen               
1-6 bet 1/choose one      1   = 1st dozen, 6 = 1st dozen aswell so you bet 1st dozen and then choose a dozen you want to play on this bet
32-22 bet 3/2                  32 = 3rd dozen, 22 = 2nd Dozen so you bet 3 and 2 dozen
12-0 bet 1/ choose one   12 = 1st dozen, 0 = zero so you bet 1st dozen and then choose a dozen you want to play on this bet
Etc....all flat.

[celescliff]

Ok, I took this for a spin today. This wasnt a very good session.

The tests is identical. The BR mirrors my currency (SEK) 1000 is a little more than 100$. I was playing 50 (little more than 5$) on the dozens and 5 (0.5$) as an insurance (50+50+5).

I first tested a way I thought of while at work, and that was only to play against the three dozen but only play on the first bet.

I also tested with the same numbers to play the way denzie described but I didn't test how it went if I choosed a dozen when I got 2 of the same dozen and also a dozen if zero came up. Sorry denzie, don't look at the end result because your test wasn't fair, since I didn't apply all the rules. I will test it later with your rules applied.

The true test here was to see how it went with flat bet, and I must say that flat bet is the best in my opinion. This test shows that you can come back quite easy if you choose to bet flat, and not use any progression. The end result in this test showed that 1-3-9, 1-3-3 or 1-3-6 could be very dangerous.

I will do some more testing this week.

[denzie]

I also tested with the same numbers to play the way denzie described but I didn't test how it went if I choosed a dozen when I got 2 of the same dozen and also a dozen if zero came up. Sorry denzie, don't look at the end result because your test wasn't fair, since I didn't apply all the rules. I will test it later with your rules applied.

The true test here was to see how it went with flat bet, and I must say that flat bet is the best in my opinion. This test shows that you can come back quite easy if you choose to bet flat, and not use any progression. The end result in this test showed that 1-3-9, 1-3-3 or 1-3-6 could be very dangerous.

I will do some more testing this week.

Hey,

I've took a quick look. My way should get + 10 . It's important to apply the "rules" correct. Looking good 

As I said earlier. ..only FLAT or positive progression.  All negatives will fail. Even with a very high hit rate.

What I do here is double my bets after -10. If I'm at -30 stop. It's not our day so we better stop. It can be a grind sometimes but hey.....

[psimoes]

Just got some time  Den to look over some more old rng spins, to good to be true

1   6   1   
2   30   3   
3   6   1   w
4   16   2   
5   14   2   
6   24   2   nb
7   30   3   
8   29   3   
9   33   3   nb
10   7   1   
11   16   2   
12   3   1   w
13   3   1   
14   18   2   

etc

etc

Hi notto. For testing, I think the tracking should start at different points in time as well, to make sure that wasn't just a lucky run. Like, what would happen if you arrived one spin "too late" at the table?

1   6   1   
2   30   3   START HERE
3   6   1   w
4   16   2   L
5   14   2   
6   24   2   nb
7   30   3   NB
8   29   3   
9   33   3   nb
10   7   1   NB
11   16   2   
12   3   1   w
13   3   1   W
14   18   2   


1   6   1   
2   30   3   
3   6   1   w START HERE
4   16   2   
5   14   2   W
6   24   2   nb
7   30   3   
8   29   3   W
9   33   3   nb
10   7   1   
11   16   2   L
12   3   1   w
13   3   1   
14   18   2   NB

ETC

[RouletteGhost]

Ok, I took this for a spin today. This wasnt a very good session.

The tests is identical. The BR mirrors my currency (SEK) 1000 is a little more than 100$. I was playing 50 (little more than 5$) on the dozens and 5 (0.5$) as an insurance (50+50+5).

I first tested a way I thought of while at work, and that was only to play against the three dozen but only play on the first bet.

I also tested with the same numbers to play the way denzie described but I didn't test how it went if I choosed a dozen when I got 2 of the same dozen and also a dozen if zero came up. Sorry denzie, don't look at the end result because your test wasn't fair, since I didn't apply all the rules. I will test it later with your rules applied.

The true test here was to see how it went with flat bet, and I must say that flat bet is the best in my opinion. This test shows that you can come back quite easy if you choose to bet flat, and not use any progression. The end result in this test showed that 1-3-9, 1-3-3 or 1-3-6 could be very dangerous.

I will do some more testing this week.

Playing "your way" you should do at least the 1st 2 bets. Skip 3rd bet. Progression 1, 2 for break even? On a loss on 1,2 increase chip value for recoup as you can be confident with this bet selection.  Looking at "your way" on this test and using 1,2 cuts your losses in half from 6 losses to 3 losses and none of the losses would have been back to back. Using 1,2 then the next trigger upping the units for recoup would have been successful. Food for thought

On denzies way you should lose on average 5 times every hour so use proper money management

On denzies way u did 26 mini games and i see 6 reds. Looks about right. But played by his rules you had a few more wins. Playing denzies id say pull put when up several units dont stay too long

I have been testing every night and continue to see 5 to 6 unique dozen patterns per hour

Thelaw's moving target should not be overlooked

[celescliff]

Playing "your way" you should do at least the 1st 2 bets. Skip 3rd bet. Progression 1, 2 for break even? On a loss on 1,2 increase chip value for recoup as you can be confident with this bet selection.  Looking at "your way" on this test and using 1,2 cuts your losses in half from 6 losses to 3 losses and none of the losses would have been back to back. Using 1,2 then the next trigger upping the units for recoup would have been successful. Food for thought

On denzies way you should lose on average 5 times every hour so use proper money management

On denzies way u did 26 mini games and i see 6 reds. Looks about right. But played by his rules you had a few more wins. Playing denzies id say pull put when up several units dont stay too long

I have been testing every night and continue to see 5 to 6 unique dozen patterns per hour

Thelaw's moving target should not be overlooked

I called it "my way" because I didn't know what else to call it, since everyone seems to use different strategies and progression of your system. 

This was a test to see how far I could get with the spins I downloaded from weisbaden spielbank. I would have probably stopped playing with real money with denzies way when I was at 1315 since I had 3 no bets after that and when I was over 200 profit on the way I played it.

[RouletteGhost]

I called it "my way" because I didn't know what else to call it, since everyone seems to use different strategies and progression of your system. 

This was a test to see how far I could get with the spins I downloaded from weisbaden spielbank. I would have probably stopped playing with real money with denzies way when I was at 1315 since I had 3 no bets after that and when I was over 200 profit on the way I played it.

I didnt mean anything by quoting it. I did that so noone would be confused between that and denzies

Keep on keepin on 

[denzie]

31 -4 bet 3/1
22-1 bet 2/1
1-16 bet 1/2
1-6 bet 1/choose one
32-22 bet 3/2
12-0 bet 1/ choose one
Etc....all flat.

You had 3 bets in 60 minigames. ...go look them again and count your profit.
You might like it 

So anyone tried it? I did about 200 spins (+/-70 minigames) and I've won pretty easily.  All Flat. Didn't need to double up. I'm not good in making charts. But it would go up and down but slightly moving north East.

If anyone tried pls let me know. Maybe I'm just lucky.

[nottophammer]

Hi notto. For testing, I think the tracking should start at different points in time as well, to make sure that wasn't just a lucky run. Like, what would happen if you arrived one spin "too late" at the table?

1   6   1   
2   30   3   START HERE
3   6   1   w
4   16   2   L
5   14   2   
6   24   2   nb
7   30   3   NB
8   29   3   
9   33   3   nb
10   7   1   NB
11   16   2   
12   3   1   w
13   3   1   W
14   18   2   


1   6   1   
2   30   3   
3   6   1   w START HERE
4   16   2   
5   14   2   W
6   24   2   nb
7   30   3   
8   29   3   W
9   33   3   nb
10   7   1   
11   16   2   L
12   3   1   w
13   3   1   
14   18   2   NB

ETC

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