Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[celescliff]

So anyone tried it? I did about 200 spins (+/-70 minigames) and I've won pretty easily.  All Flat. Didn't need to double up. I'm not good in making charts. But it would go up and down but slightly moving north East.

If anyone tried pls let me know. Maybe I'm just lucky.

I will try this hopefully tonight or in the next couple of days. 

[celescliff]

Couldn't wait so I took tested 99 spins during lunch break at work.

I tested first to see how things went if you didn't double it which went okay, but I should have double for less grinding. I double two bets later on which went great.

I would probably have quit at row 21 or 22, if I played with real money. Besides not double at the beginning, I think I applied the rules correctly.

Anyway, +55 units. Will test this more later.

[nottophammer]

celescliff
where you get 2-2- ?  how do you chose the other dozen to bet

[celescliff]

celescliff
where you get 2-2- ?  how do you chose the other dozen to bet

I often choose dozen if it hasn't come up last. When I test I download spins from weisbaden spielbank and then I shrink down notepad so I can only see 1 number. That way I can't predict what number comes next. Like the pictures I attached. So when I get 2-2 like the pictures and 3 came before those 2 I choose to bet 1.

[tonowen]

I don't know why this always happen to me. I tested bet against previous 3 almost 2 weeks and i saw only 2 losses.
I decided to bet with the real money, but i saw 6 losses in only 100 spins and the latest loss was 3 times in a row!!

2 3 2
2 3 2
2 3 2
2 3 2

Is there anyone have a good result when betting with the real money?

[RouletteGhost]

I don't know why this always happen to me. I tested bet against previous 3 almost 2 weeks and i saw only 2 losses.
I decided to bet with the real money, but i saw 6 losses in only 100 spins and the latest loss was 3 times in a row!!

2 3 2
2 3 2
2 3 2
2 3 2

Is there anyone have a good result when betting with the real money?

If you like playing against previous 3 checkout the raymanz tweak thread.

[RouletteGhost]

Couldn't wait so I took tested 99 spins during lunch break at work.

I tested first to see how things went if you didn't double it which went okay, but I should have double for less grinding. I double two bets later on which went great.

I would probably have quit at row 21 or 22, if I played with real money. Besides not double at the beginning, I think I applied the rules correctly.

Anyway, +55 units. Will test this more later.

this is a good tweak. props to denzie. i think ive mentioned it before, and someone else did to but denzie made it take off

the only was for it to lose is to have a lot of uniques, and we know that just doesnt happen

i would only play it if the first 2 were unique, i wouldnt play if it was
NO BET
22
33
11
01
02
03

etc

denzies way
my triggers are:
12
13
21
23
31
32

I re-did celescliff test, this time with my tweak of Denzie's way. I would only bet when the 1st two were unique from one another, 0 disqualified.

[RouletteGhost]

And betting against previous 3 when unique won them all. No reds. Only green

[RouletteGhost]

for the hit and run crowd and believers ONLY, not for the math guys. Million spin testers need not apply:

Bet against 123. The original grassroots idea on rolling basis. No mini games

Get in. Get out

4 unit win goal

Bet against 1. If win bet against 1 again
When lose bet against 2. Lose again bet against 3. Original method as author intended

On ANY win reset immediately betting against 1. No mini games at all

We want to be in and out within about 10 spins or less

Only way to lose is for 123 to hit you immediately

To recap: bet against 1 2 3 on any win reset immediately

Insurance on 0 is not an option. Its like brushing your teeth, you just do it. Dont do it? Then dont complain when 103 happens

This roulette thing is random. Fight random and do it fast

[denzie]

So far , still good. Pretty solid.

[denzie]

Couldn't wait so I took tested 99 spins during lunch break at work.

I tested first to see how things went if you didn't double it which went okay, but I should have double for less grinding. I double two bets later on which went great.

I would probably have quit at row 21 or 22, if I played with real money. Besides not double at the beginning, I think I applied the rules correctly.

Anyway, +55 units. Will test this more later.

Now we're talking 

[GLC]

Just some thoughts for viewer's consideration.

If this system is one you like and feel comfortable playing at 1-1; 2-2; 6-6 or 1-1; 3-3; 9-9, if you can afford it why not play for 1-1; 4-4; 13-13?  This is a Grand Martingale for double dozens.  You win 1 unit if you win the first bet.  You win 2 units if you win the 2nd bet and you win 3 units if you win the 3rd bet.  Believe me, if 1-1; 2-2; 6-6 works, then for just a little more investment and no more risk you can win at a much faster rate.

Also, if this works  with a 3 step marty, and you can afford it, it will work just as well with a 4 step or 5 step marty.  You could bet 1-1; 3-3; 9-9; 27-27 and have many, many fewer losses.  For those with really deep pockets, a 6 step marty will let you bet against dozen pattern 1  2 3 1 2 3.  How often does that happen? 

Of course these change suggestions don't affect the performance of the system, they just give you larger wins or more wins between losses, on average.

Whatever you decide on, don't risk more than you can afford.

GLC

[RouletteGhost]

Just some thoughts for viewer's consideration.

If this system is one you like and feel comfortable playing at 1-1; 2-2; 6-6 or 1-1; 3-3; 9-9, if you can afford it why not play for 1-1; 4-4; 13-13?  This is a Grand Martingale for double dozens.  You win 1 unit if you win the first bet.  You win 2 units if you win the 2nd bet and you win 3 units if you win the 3rd bet.  Believe me, if 1-1; 2-2; 6-6 works, then for just a little more investment and no more risk you can win at a much faster rate.

Also, if this works  with a 3 step marty, and you can afford it, it will work just as well with a 4 step or 5 step marty.  You could bet 1-1; 3-3; 9-9; 27-27 and have many, many fewer losses.  For those with really deep pockets, a 6 step marty will let you bet against dozen pattern 1  2 3 1 2 3.  How often does that happen? 

Of course these change suggestions don't affect the performance of the system, they just give you larger wins or more wins between losses, on average.

Whatever you decide on, don't risk more than you can afford.

GLC

Will be playing online at 5 dimes and will take this advice

[denzie]

Each one of us prefers his progression. But for me flat is the way to go. Can't seem to lose. It will. I know.

I get +10 each session. I even get + 15 each session. That's a bit more then 10-20% of our BR. 

Still not sure what to think but again. ...so far so very good. 

Flat Flat Flat

[mogul397]

Does anyone agree that this is a HG or am i just nuts? Be honest

I just found this thread and I can't figure out how it mechanically works.

Are you waiting for a 1,2 ?  Or just starting from the last result, in which case
all you are doing is betting against the last dozen.

As an example, from Nick the greeks data on page two,

The results go  (for discussion) Take a look.

w    2
l        2        Guess we bet 1,2, against a 3?   
w    2           Not sure how we make up a bet
l        1        Still not sure
w        1        Somehow we win. Guess against a 2
w        2        But here we also win. Would we be betting AGAINST a 2?
w        3


Doesn't seem to be any consistency.

Here is the original system example on page one.


1,3,2---W 2nd spin
They start after the first spin ONLY because it’s a “1” betting against a “2”?

2,1,1---W 1st spin
A new series starts?  Based on what?  The “2” in the first row not being a “3”?

2,3,2 ---W 1st spin
3,1,2---W 1st spin
1,2,1---W 3rd spin

Am *I* nutz? I don't see the flow in these examples.