Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[nottophammer]

Hi mogul397

its a 3 spin mini game using 1,2,3  on 1st spin you bet against doz 1 , so bet is 2,3 if lose  next spin bet against 2  bet 1,3

[mogul397]

i have tested the first 102 spins of zumma (american since onetaste plays in AC)

102 spins being 34 mini games

i had one mini game loss in the 34 mini games. in all cases 1 3 9 won, except once. question remains, play mini games, or just play on a rolling basis with an ever so slight progression?

bravo onetaste this is a good bet selection i believe. granted this is a small sample size it does have potential. thanks for the new idea.

played as mini games and  1 3 9 prog, + 33 units - 26 units, total gain of +7 units

for what its worth flat betting every spin would have yielded +5 units

playing with $10 chips and $500 bankroll, resetting after a loss at 9 units per dozen back to 1 unit bankroll survived and in plus 

with a win goal of 5 units you may never see that 3L


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Kind of another example that I don't get. You didn't write the numbers from page 102,
but at least it is traceable

So here is what I have. I am guessing for the start. My assumption is that somehow
you are always looking at the last result and betting against the NEXT higher on
in a circular pattern. But I can't tell.

2                       
2                  w         Bet against 3 after 2?
1                  w         Bet again against 3 after 2?
1                  w         Bet against 2 after 1?
2                  --
3                  w
3                  w
2                  w
3                  --
1                  w
3                  w
1                  w
3                  --


FAT FINGER POST. DON'T KNOW HOW TO DELETE.

[mogul397]

i have tested the first 102 spins of zumma (american since onetaste plays in AC)

102 spins being 34 mini games

i had one mini game loss in the 34 mini games. in all cases 1 3 9 won, except once. question remains, play mini games, or just play on a rolling basis with an ever so slight progression?

bravo onetaste this is a good bet selection i believe. granted this is a small sample size it does have potential. thanks for the new idea.

played as mini games and  1 3 9 prog, + 33 units - 26 units, total gain of +7 units

for what its worth flat betting every spin would have yielded +5 units

playing with $10 chips and $500 bankroll, resetting after a loss at 9 units per dozen back to 1 unit bankroll survived and in plus 

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Kind of another example that I don't get. You didn't write the numbers from page 102,
but at least it is traceable

So here is what I have. I am guessing for the start. My assumption is that somehow
you are always looking at the last result and betting against the NEXT higher on
in a circular pattern. But I can't tell.

2                       
2                  w         Bet against 3 after 2?
1                  w         Bet again against 3 after 2?
1                  w         Bet against 2 after 1?
2                  --         NB?  If so, why?  Double 1's?
3                  w         Betting for no 3. Would be a loss.
3                  w         Bet for no 1?
2                  w         Bet for no 1 AGAIN?
3                  --         NB?   Why?
1                  w         Bet for no 1?  LOSS???
3                  w          No 2
1                  w          No 1?   LOSSS?
3                  --

I don't get it.

[RouletteGhost]

You bet against dozen sequence 123 in 3 spin mini games. When you win you wait until next mini game

Thats it

Expect to lose 1 to 2 times an hour on american. More losses on euro. Due to wheel layout 123 is much more common on euro

The dashes werent no bet as u put it. I used dashes to separate the mini games

Just the tip of the ice berg

Opens up the doorway to a new way of thinking

Even if it isnt the best, people can chime in and help and tweak and have epiphanies. Ya know, sometimes people forget what the forums for

But how it goes is after 40 pages the negative people get a strong hold and its downhill from there

Then we find ourselves either at square 1, or the smart ones go and win with it

[mogul397]

You bet against dozen sequence 123 in 3 spin mini games. When you win you wait until next mini game

Thats it

Expect to lose 1 to 2 times an hour on american. More losses on euro. Due to wheel layout 123 is much more common on euro

The dashes werent no bet as u put it. I used dashes to separate the mini games

Just the tip of the ice berg

Opens up the doorway to a new way of thinking

Even if it isnt the best, people can chime in and help and tweak and have epiphanies. Ya know, sometimes people forget what the forums for

But how it goes is after 40 pages the negative people get a strong hold and its downhill from there

Then we find ourselves either at square 1, or the smart ones go and win with it

Thanks RG.  I'm getting it a bit more.

But as I look at page 102 of zumma I get

"2,2,1" and "1,2,3"

In your results from page 1 I see "w w w"  "w w w".....

So

1) I see a win on the first set of 3, but an immediate loss on the second set,
but no record of a loss in your test.  And

2) You do have "w w w"   "w w w".. As if you are playing every spin.
They are all in 3's.  If you were playing sessions of 3, you would have
one result from each group.

Kind of threw me and knocked the wind out of my sales to see a loss
right away.

Am I right about the example? Or what do I see wrong?

Thanks

[RouletteGhost]

the test you are citing is the first 102 spins of american zumma

i bet every single time against 123 pattern, no stopping, just against 1 then 2 then 3. I did it this way to see if there was ALWAYS a W within 3 spins. if there was then I knew 1 3 9 would work. One time it did not work, see the LLL

how some of us ended up doing it going forward was mini games of 3

walk up to table
spin 1- bet against dozen 1, if win sit out next 2 spins
spin 2- bet against dozen 2, if win sit out next spin
spin 3- bet against dozen 3, if win bet immediately against dozen 1

if I had ONE W within 3 spins i knew i was home free with 1 3 9, insurance on 0 of course, always...as i see a lot of 103,  no good if you aren't on zero to

i tested the bajeebus out of this

my findings (on american wheel):
-123 occurs one time every 75 spins or so (it occurs more sometimes, but only on rolling basis, in set mini games of 3 it does not)
-if you wait for 123 to occur then bet against it, go big
-a unique dozen formation averages 5 to 6 times every 100 spins

do not gamble with money you cannot afford to, because 123123 will happen every 2200 spins or so

at the end of the day this is roulette and every strategy will have losses.....but i think this is the best double dozens bet selection on this forum.....well, ONE of the best

[Nick-the-Greek]

Here is my latest update since hitting a bad sequence using this system a few weeks ago (just betting against 123).

I've tweaked this and now keep betting against the previous unique 3 spin mini game.

These are the unique mini games that I bet against:

123
132
213
231
312
321

So, I don't initially start betting until one of these sequences shows itself in a 3 spin mini game - I then keep betting against it (in 3 spin mini games) until another one shows and then I switch and keep betting against that one until another one appears........etc. etc.

If the first/second bet wins let the mini game play out without any further betting.
If the third bet loses stop and start again from scratch at another table.

Progression is 1-3-9, however I might now try 1-4-13 to help build the bank more quickly (thank you GLC for the suggestion).

All going well so far using Euro live online wheels.

Please test this before you use real cash - I'm still testing with real cash but only use 10p stakes with a starting bank of £20, when the bank reaches £30 I double the stakes to 20p and when I reach £40 I double again to 40p.

I usually play for short periods of time and aim to increase the bank by 5% then call it a day.

It's a grind, however no big losses yet - I hope to play more during the Christmas holidays when a full time job doesn't get in the way!!

Nick

[RouletteGhost]

So, I don't initially start betting until one of these sequences shows itself in a 3 spin mini game - I then keep betting against it (in 3 spin mini games) until another one shows and then I switch and keep betting against that one until another one appears........etc. etc.

If the first/second bet wins let the mini game play out without any further betting.
If the third bet loses stop and start again from scratch at another table.

Progression is 1-3-9, however I might now try 1-4-13 to help build the bank more quickly (thank you GLC for the suggestion).

All going well so far using Euro live online wheels.

I wish i had a 20 cents option. 1 dollar is the absolute minimum for me on 5 dimes and 10 dollars on airball

If i could play 20 cents i coul use a 2 step progression. Oh well

At the end of the day roulette is gambling and still requires some luck. So only money u can affore to lose

[mogul397]

the test you are citing is the first 102 spins of american zumma

i bet every single time against 123 pattern, no stopping, just against 1 then 2 then 3. I did it this way to see if there was ALWAYS a W within 3 spins. if there was then I knew 1 3 9 would work. One time it did not work, see the LLL

how some of us ended up doing it going forward was mini games of 3

walk up to table
spin 1- bet against dozen 1, if win sit out next 2 spins
spin 2- bet against dozen 2, if win sit out next spin
spin 3- bet against dozen 3, if win bet immediately against dozen 1

if I had ONE W within 3 spins i knew i was home free with 1 3 9, insurance on 0 of course, always...as i see a lot of 103,  no good if you aren't on zero to

i tested the bajeebus out of this

my findings (on american wheel):
-123 occurs one time every 75 spins or so (it occurs more sometimes, but only on rolling basis, in set mini games of 3 it does not)
-if you wait for 123 to occur then bet against it, go big
-a unique dozen formation averages 5 to 6 times every 100 spins

do not gamble with money you cannot afford to, because 123123 will happen every 2200 spins or so

at the end of the day this is roulette and every strategy will have losses.....but i think this is the best double dozens bet selection on this forum.....well, ONE of the best

My bad, RG.  I read PAGE 102, as I often grab the book and turn to random pages.

BTW, what are the other double dozen systems that are as good or
better than this?

[RouletteGhost]

My bad, RG.  I read PAGE 102, as I often grab the book and turn to random pages.

BTW, what are the other double dozen systems that are as good or
better than this?

This tweak. Not my idea. So i wont take credit for it

Look at the unique dozen sequences nick posted above

Whenever you see one of those bet against it

[mogul397]

This tweak. Not my idea. So i wont take credit for it

Look at the unique dozen sequences nick posted above

Whenever you see one of those bet against it

It's funny that you mention that. I was thinking about this kind of
variation last night. And what I was thinking about was taking,
say, the columb numbers (1,2,3) and using that as the template
for the next bet series, to create a moving target.

[mogul397]

Yeah, the more I think this thing through, flat play
on this series of 3 betting is just a loss.

The only time you make money is when you hit the
first one.  After that you're already recovering from
the 2 unit losses from the 1st or 2nd losses.

[mogul397]

I wish i had a 20 cents option. 1 dollar is the absolute minimum for me on 5 dimes and 10 dollars on airball

If i could play 20 cents i coul use a 2 step progression. Oh well

At the end of the day roulette is gambling and still requires some luck. So only money u can affore to lose

Where you from RG? I never saw 20 cents.

I'm lucky to find $5.

[RouletteGhost]

Longest island in america.

[Drazen]

BTW, what are the other double dozen systems that are as good or
better than this?

For such amount of comprehension here, you can try to play against 3 of the same dozen in a row.

Dont ask me why 

Cheers