Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[denzie]

I've played my tweak all morning but with a parlay 1-1 , 1-1 , 2-2 , 3-3 , 4-4 stop and reset.
Actually it worked very smooth.

[mogul397]

GO GETEM' RG!!!

[mogul397]

Mogul

Here again

See chart

AGAINST 123

"Mogul I want to make sure you understand the original, where it all originated.

see the attached chart

we are NOT betting every single spin

this is the original bet against 123 where it ALL started

see row 1. we bet against dozen 1, we win. now sit out the next 2 spins.
go down to row 2, bet against dozen 1, win. sit out next 2 spins.

goto row 5. we bet against 1, LOSE, now we up it to 3 units per dozen and bet against dozen 2, we WIN. sit out the next spin and dont bet again until row 6"

If i take the time out please read it.

Sorry RG. I understand it. Thanks for explaining it. My brain is just so
"off to the races" with different variations I can't reel it in.

Good luck today.

[mogul397]

Another approach would be against 1-2-3 betting 1,2,3

Win on first      = +01

Win on second = +00

Win on third     =  -03

Total loss         =  -12

More of a grind, but much safer.

Thanks for laying down "the law".  This may not be perfect, but
it's in the right direction.

You don't wanna live like THIS, I hope.......

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Phl82D57P58

[mogul397]

You guys just aint getting it. You were at -350 and you would of quit (as you should or even sooner?), which means, you would NOT of "pulled through".

In line with my 27 threads regarding testing.
You cant look at a chart *AFTERWARDS* and say....see, see this is great news !!

The chart (or testing) has to be in line with ACTUAL PLAYING CONDITIONS of what YOU WOULD DO IN *REAL* SITUATIONS OF PLAYING !!!!!!

Ken

W W  K D  (What would Ken do?)

[mogul397]

This was the worst so far, but it's understandable since I had many repeaters this time. More then I've seen before. (four repeaters in a row)

3   1   1
3   1   1
1   2   2
1   2   1
2   3   1 <
3   2   1 <
1   2   3 <
1   3   2 <
1   1   1
3   3   1
2   2   2
0   3   3
1   2   1
2   2   3
3   2   1 <
1   3   1
1   1   2
1   3   2 <
1   1   1
1   2   3 <
2   1   3 <
2   1   3 <
3   1   3
3   2   1 <
0   1   0
3   2   1 <
1   2   2
3   1   1
3   2   1 <
2   3   1 <
3   2   2
1   3   3
1   1   3
1   1   3
1   2   3 <
2   1   0
3   3   3
3   2   0
3   1   2 <
2   3   1 <
3   1   3
2   2   3
2   2   1
1   3   3
2   3   2
1   3   1
1   1   1
3   1   0
2   1   2
3   0   3
2   1   3 <
2   1   1
3   1   3
2   3   2
2   1   2
3   3   3
1   2   1

But atleast I pulled it through.

I'm not sure I get how you're betting. Surely you had more than
one chance to win (lose) each time, and I see other repeaters.

[mogul397]

Celes. Go back to page 50. Look at ur test

Decide if u liked playing that way.

Cause man, that was a solid tweak

I have another "tweak". It could just be a thought. Or bullshit.
But I feel like, from the results I remember, it might have merit.

Play for the result of the last outcome. Now mind you (RG) yes
I may be exhibiting "continuous play" thinking.. But when I was
working on looking for the repeat dozens, you would get 2-3 in a row
that "lost". Sometimes many more. In other words they cluster.

I haven't ground this though into the ground. But I'd appreciate it if
some others thought about it and give it some mental tests.
"going with the flow" more in terms of wins/ losses.

[mogul397]

Each and every mini game won

Max step in progression: 2

Put a note of humor on it

Now im no roulette expert. BUT if you go 75 spins with no loss id say hey thats a good system. Progression or not......(3 step progression)

Why does it say on the chart "this method sucks"?

[mogul397]

All im saying is dont fault people for testing long sessions if you dont post tests yourself

Tomorrow i will post many real casino visit tests. 21 spin test sessions.

I don't see why he's skeptical if he's the global moderator of this group.

All good luck to you RG, and I'm VERY interested in seeing your results.
All posted long hand....  (And your winning report).

[mogul397]

"Since you wanna fault everyone for testing long sessions" >> I never said that.

I said, TRY and make sure it lines up with actual PLAYING conditions, thats what I said.

Listen RG, I'm only trying to help (and Turbo). You dont see it and thats ok, I understand and the best part, I lose nothing if you ignore my posts. 

I like analogies.....lets say I was gonna take up the hobby of stamp collecting.

Am I gonna listen to the 19 year old or the 65 year old (I'm 47) who has been doing it for over 50 years?

Ken

I'm 59, and started with a small book my cousin gave me when I was
about 22 about gambling.  At one point I had accumulated the daily
race results from the newspaper for TWO YEARS. When that was my focus.
My focus had to do with all practical things.  Access was one. I lived in
Lowell MA.  Right by New Hampshire.  They opened AC.  I did my first
casino visit there. Went to Mohegan sun once just to see. Often went on
a Sat morn before a crowd. Or after work.

Moved to Franklin Ma. RI boarder. They opened Twin River.  My father in law
went every Friday. Finally, this year, Plainridge.   3 exits down Rt 495.
So when I get hot on testing something I can drive there in 15 min.
No cash. Just notebook. They have "airball"? which is physical wheel
with real ball.  $3 min..  $1500 max. Quite a spread.  It's what I've
dreamed of my whole life.

[celescliff]

I'm not sure I get how you're betting. Surely you had more than
one chance to win (lose) each time, and I see other repeaters.

I play denzie's way. Only on the last bet.

If 1 2 come up I bet 1 2.

If 2 2 come up I play 2 + choose a dozen.

If 1 0 I play 1 + chooze a dozen.

[mogul397]

I know RG isn't going to like this. But as I graze over past pages and
presentations of variations on the method, it was a work in progress.
People usually present what they do in the context of what was being talked
about at the time. And also post charts.

When I go back and read. And look at the charts, my brain tries to
evaluate what I see based on present knowledge, when the example
being given is just thrown out there based on what that person is
knowing, or what is in vogue at the time.

So my head explodes and I spend all this time trying to attach the
methodology that I can dig up for that person or that time, instead of
the people just giving a short blurb of an explanation about what they
are doing in that particular test.

I know this won't happen when RG comes back tonight/tomorrow and
presents all his data. He'll rubber stamp the particular approach he used
clearly, so we'll all know for sure why his trip was so profitable.

Aye?

[MrJ]

I know RG isn't going to like this. But as I graze over past pages and
presentations of variations on the method, it was a work in progress.
People usually present what they do in the context of what was being talked
about at the time. And also post charts.

When I go back and read. And look at the charts, my brain tries to
evaluate what I see based on present knowledge, when the example
being given is just thrown out there based on what that person is
knowing, or what is in vogue at the time.

So my head explodes and I spend all this time trying to attach the
methodology that I can dig up for that person or that time, instead of
the people just giving a short blurb of an explanation about what they
are doing in that particular test.

I know this won't happen when RG comes back tonight/tomorrow and
presents all his data. He'll rubber stamp the particular approach he used
clearly, so we'll all know for sure why his trip was so profitable.

Aye?

This is not a rip on RG but he'll probably take it as such. I think his BIGGER goal is to convince others rather than, go out and stake a claim for himself (if its possible). I told him before....I have been there many times. What he wants (and won't get) is a crusade by his side, maybe a holiday named after him? He wants more involvement (as did I) and more members singing praises (as did I).

I have posted a few methods were I was *SHOCKED* it did not take off like wild fire. My solution? Laugh my a** off and post less. He takes it personal. He's a hard worker with this game, I will give him that much. As I said, when you have a holy grail (not my words), the sky is the limit and nothing can get in your way, not even a day job.

Ken

[thelaw]

This is not a rip on RG but he'll probably take it as such. I think his BIGGER goal is to convince others rather than, go out and stake a claim for himself (if its possible). I told him before....I have been there many times. What he wants (and won't get) is a crusade by his side, maybe a holiday named after him? He wants more involvement (as did I) and more members singing praises (as did I).

I have posted a few methods were I was *SHOCKED* it did not take off like wild fire. My solution? Laugh my a** off and post less. He takes it personal. He's a hard worker with this game, I will give him that much. As I said, when you have a holy grail (not my words), the sky is the limit and nothing can get in your way, not even a day job.

Ken

I think the one piece of this that all of these threads are missing is continuous updates of win/loss totals.

If I see that someone posted a method and then nobody responded or updated the thread, I just assume that the method eventually tanked unless they post updates.

This is the real problem with this forum in general; we have yet to see a member claiming continuous profit over a long period of time with any form of proof (receipts are easy to show). I assume if someone had such a method that was posted here, they would update everyone on their current winnings. "Current winnings : $135,000 (11,000 units) as of today with a total of 10,500 spins played"

Instead we get members who claim wins, but want to keep their method secret............great idea for a forum.

.....and then then the excuses just roll in........"not giving it away"........"you must earn it".......all the while, the owner of the forum spends his time on computers to beat the game. So why would he risk being arrested if he had access to a winning system?

If anyone has a winning method, then post updates, or expect everyone to assume the worst.

Anyone should be able to test a method, and post those results...........this ain't rocket-science...........if a method works, then it works........period!!!

[MrJ]

Two issues >> and I'll repeat it as many times as needed. Posting test results are fine as long as they would MATCH UP with real conditions at a casino. Being down $3,400 (testing) and finishing with a profit of $270 is NOT a REAL LIFE CASINO SITUATION. In your head....."GREAT RESULTS WITH THAT TESTING" but in reality, you lost.

Second, (you did touch on this) proof of a good day at the casino? So a person says they won $850 with method "X", how do we know? Even posting a receipt, where is the PROOF it came from a roulette game and method "X"?

Ken