Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[MrJ]

Yes, beacose I have the BR for it, and many other losses.

I know I am gambling. I know I can loose. I am willing to take that risk. This money is disposable money. And I am not gambling with the money for baby's new pair of shoes.

Simon.

Hey thats cool, you and I are part of the *10%*....the rest, not so sure.

Not to mention, unless the unit sizes are .05 apiece.......

[SimonZed1]

Not to mention, unless the unit sizes are .05 apiece.......

Could be. Thats why I use the word units and not dollars. But I usually dont play less than high society chips... 

[thelaw]

Good answer

This isnt cookie cutter

I wouldnt play if i couldnt take a 140 swing

This is an unbeatable game

For love of the game and passion we create systems and money management

It is a hobby. Not one size fits all. People have different styles. Period

People have a hobby for creating and testing strategies. If they want to test 3 spins or hundreds of spins let them

Math guys and "you cant win" guys ruin it for hobbyists and makes this place no fun

"This is an unbeatable game

For love of the game and passion we create systems and money management

It is a hobby. Not one size fits all. People have different styles. Period

People have a hobby for creating and testing strategies." - RG

Well, it's been fun!

Best of luck to everyone.

Last post on this thread.

[MrJ]

@RG >>> You did it again. You post (regarding this method) 2 different things >> This is an unbeatable game AND you have the Holy Grail.    I'm confused.

Ken

[MrJ]

Could be. Thats why I use the word units and not dollars. But I usually dont play less than high society chips... 

Lets not confuse UNIT sizes, testing compared to unit sizes at a CASINO.

I agree, if we are using unit sizes of .0001 then sure, we could afford to lose 546,511,097,054 units.

Ken

[mogul397]

Dont break raymanz balls

He made the best tweak to date and tested 66k spins and posted the results

His tweak is a winner

If you choose not to test it thats your effin problem

Bet against previous 3 when unique

Triggers

123
132
213
231
312
321

See one of those? then bet against it

Playing dozens and columns you will get about 10 betting opportunities per hour. On average you will lose every 250 to 350 spins as thats how often a uniqie repeats

Dont like it? Dont play it
Dont believe in it? Oh well
Dont want to read the raymanz tweak thread? Tough luck to ya cause you wont find better. Have better? Show me

___________
Each uniqie repeats every 2000 spins -- 6 uniques thats roughly every 300 spins you see a unique repeat.  Want to find better? GOOD LUCK. Buy a roulette computer then

So how did you do today?  You went to the casino, right?

Do you have a trip report?

[denzie]

Happy to see the yacking stopped. So back to this grassroots. ...

Originally playing against  123 did great. Till it kicked my profits in half. So I stopped. Cuz it loses on the long run. It is what it is. But hey it did make me some nice money. Switching tables really really really changes nothing. It's in the hands of luck only. In and out is same. Luck.

Then the unique. ..they did great also. Again till you sit down on the wrong moment. And of course the waiting is bit long .

Columns is a big no for me.

So currently I play my tweak with very great success and tiny dd. It's one of the best methods I play with low risk.Flat or parlay.

One more thing about the unique. ..we not got many betting opportunity so when that progression of 11 33 99 loses....how many hours we need to recover?  Double the stakes?  Damn another bust. ...you know what I try to say?

I can't say it enough. ..FLAT OR PARLEY. 

RG...how your casino trip went?

Simon...your idea ain't bad mate. Just be careful with "BIG" bets cuz you think now it should be safe. Roulette is a b*tch.

Again flat or parlay. Again Onetaste and RG thx for promoting this.

[mogul397]

Dont break raymanz balls

He made the best tweak to date and tested 66k spins and posted the results

His tweak is a winner

If you choose not to test it thats your effin problem

Bet against previous 3 when unique

Triggers

123
132
213
231
312
321

See one of those? then bet against it

Playing dozens and columns you will get about 10 betting opportunities per hour. On average you will lose every 250 to 350 spins as thats how often a uniqie repeats

Dont like it? Dont play it
Dont believe in it? Oh well
Dont want to read the raymanz tweak thread? Tough luck to ya cause you wont find better. Have better? Show me

___________
Each uniqie repeats every 2000 spins -- 6 uniques thats roughly every 300 spins you see a unique repeat.  Want to find better? GOOD LUCK. Buy a roulette computer then

I keep looking for the actual post of the tweak.  Can't find it.
He talks about a pinwheel a lot. Not sure what that is.

What post # are you referring to?

[denzie]

You need glasses 

[NextYear]

@ Mogul
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16390.new;topicseen#new

[RouletteGhost]

@RG >>> You did it again. You post (regarding this method) 2 different things >> This is an unbeatable game AND you have the Holy Grail.    I'm confused.

Ken

It is my own HG

It wins enough for me to consider it that

It meets MY criteria. so thats that

[RouletteGhost]

Again flat or parlay. Again Onetaste and RG thx for promoting this.

Too good not to, lol

[RouletteGhost]

I received a PM from someone who has made literally thousands of dollars playing against 123 and 321 dozens and columns

Bigger unit size

Says he wont post because of the negativity

Said hed rather talk in PM with like minded people who seek to make the method better rather then spend days trying to prove it is crap

So you know who you are, good job being anti what the forum is for and making people not post

Part of message shared with permission

See where being jacka**es gets? This guy makes good money with some tweaks of grassroots but wont post because of know it alls and the you cant win crowd,who probably havent tested any of these tweaks one bit but just wants to chime in

So instead of this guy joining in to make it better hes silent

[Drazen]

@ RouletteGhost

May I ask what do you think here real problem is with "math boys", who are also usually considered to be naysayer about almost any method?

Do you think the way this is proposed to be played actually cannot be simulated in a right way so any negative longterm tests are not conducted in a right way? You think computer simulation is not the best way to do that?

Cheers

[RouletteGhost]

@ RouletteGhost

May I ask what do you think here real problem is with "math boys", who are also usually considered to be naysayer about almost any method?

Do you think the way this is proposed to be played actually cannot be simulated in a right way so any negative longterm tests are not conducted in a right way? You think computer simulation is not the best way to do that?

Cheers

Long term testing. No way

But you are a math guy. That is what you do. So you will say most methods fail

So what you guys should do is come and say it will fail and then move on and lets us keep at it. In my opinion

If strategy hobbyists wanted BS we would goto wizard of vegas forum

Mind you, i have many PMs of guys winning big with grassroots principles. So a long term test means nothing to me. Does not reflect actual visits

If i choose a grassroots tweak and walk upto a table and play if for a few spins chances are im going to win. Long term testing shows oh look a loss here and a loss there

Im not stupid. I know it can lose. With proper progression and strategy we can make it work. I know that because people are

So if you dont like it dont play it. We now know who disagrees with it.

So no nevativity here. Move on to another method (not you particularly just anyone who disagrees with it) and let us keep at it. I enjoy seeing tests and success stories. Keep it clean

Not THAT hard

Then maybe we will have lurkers post.