Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[Drazen]

I understand.

Computer simulations can be used quite widely and almost any hypothesis can be coded and simulated. Why do you think casino visits cannot be simulated in a way that such test reflects correct and factual results? Where lies the difference then?

[RouletteGhost]

I understand.

Computer simulations can be used quite widely and almost any hypothesis can be coded and simulated. Why do you think casino visits cannot be simulated in a way that such test reflects correct and factual results? Where lies the difference then?

I dont know. I can speculate though. I believe in hit and run. Most dont

[Drazen]

So what hit and run means to you? How much absence of play is enough to be considered running away?

Hit and run is perfectly fine with me and lets say that really means something (difference) in results. Why there wouldn't be a validate way to test that through computer simulation?

I am thinking about this. You take some X number of spins or triggers played you think it will be enough for one visit, then skip certain amount of spins (which would be spun while you are not in the casino) and then continue the process like that? Could that for example be closer to simulating hit and run?

[SimonZed1]

I can't say it enough. ..FLAT OR PARLEY. 


Simon...your idea ain't bad mate. Just be careful with "BIG" bets cuz you think now it should be safe. Roulette is a b*tch.

Denzie,

Yes you are right on this one. I have been doing some maths all morning and the 1,3,9 is definitely not the solution. Now that we are starting to have a good bet selection method, I guess it's time to spend more time on money management. I will have to try a few things.

Simon.

[RouletteGhost]

My style is

1 2 5

Lighter. Break even. Only profit on 1st bet

Worked for me. But everyone has own style

[SimonZed1]

My style is

1 2 5

Lighter. Break even. Only profit on 1st bet

Worked for me. But everyone has own style

I`m really starting to think if something like some type of cancellation or Fibonacci would work with something like this... Hmmm.....

[RouletteGhost]

I`m really starting to think if something like some type of cancellation or Fibonacci would work with something like this... Hmmm.....

Sounds good

I play mini games of 3

So i set my progression for that

So

111 mini game
111 new mini game
111 new mini game

I treat each one independently and i dont play on a rolling basis

Against previous 3 shown below. Not the best idea. It loses at times

Good for hit and run maybe

[RayManZ]

Some stats about the pinwheel grassroot.

In the past i kept track of all the spins i played at a live casino. I found them today on my harddrive and decided to do some quick tests.

If you would play the original grassroot method. So betting against 123 i would win. In all the tests combined the combination 321 works the best on the casino i played.

13-11-2015: +108 units
14-11-2015: +81 units
16-11-2015: +115 units
17-11-2015: +13 units
18-11-2015: +110 units
19-11-2015: +92 units

So betting against 321 with a 1 3 9 progression would make a nice daily profit. So nothing fancy. Just bet against 321 of the pinwheel.

1 = pinwheel 1 and 4
2 = pinwheel 2 and 5
3 = pinwheel 3 and 6

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13-11-2015
total: 297
123: 9
132: 14
213: 7
231: 11
312: 6
321: 7

14-11-2015
total: 216
123: 5
132: 8
213: 6
231: 6
312: 12
321: 5

16-11-2015
total: 277
123: 13
132: 10
213: 8
231: 12
312: 4
321: 6

17-11-2015
total: 309
123: 10
132: 11
213: 13
231: 9
312: 8
321: 11

18-11-2015
total: 299
123: 9
132: 9
213: 6
231: 8
312: 15
321: 7

19-11-2015
total: 281
123: 15
132: 13
213: 12
231: 16
312: 9
321: 7


[RouletteGhost]

Some stats about the pinwheel grassroot.

In the past i kept track of all the spins i played at a live casino. I found them today on my harddrive and decided to do some quick tests.

If you would play the original grassroot method. So betting against 123 i would win. In all the tests combined the combination 321 works the best on the casino i played.

13-11-2015: +108 units
14-11-2015: +81 units
16-11-2015: +115 units
17-11-2015: +13 units
18-11-2015: +110 units
19-11-2015: +92 units

So betting against 321 with a 1 3 9 progression would make a nice daily profit. So nothing fancy. Just bet against 321 of the pinwheel.

1 = pinwheel 1 and 4
2 = pinwheel 2 and 5
3 = pinwheel 3 and 6

Code Select Expand


13-11-2015
total: 297
123: 9
132: 14
213: 7
231: 11
312: 6
321: 7

14-11-2015
total: 216
123: 5
132: 8
213: 6
231: 6
312: 12
321: 5

16-11-2015
total: 277
123: 13
132: 10
213: 8
231: 12
312: 4
321: 6

17-11-2015
total: 309
123: 10
132: 11
213: 13
231: 9
312: 8
321: 11

18-11-2015
total: 299
123: 9
132: 9
213: 6
231: 8
312: 15
321: 7

19-11-2015
total: 281
123: 15
132: 13
213: 12
231: 16
312: 9
321: 7


Thank you so much for the stats

Anyone have american pinwheel?

[SimonZed1]

So betting against 321 with a 1 3 9 progression would make a nice daily profit. So nothing fancy. Just bet against 321 of the pinwheel.

1 = pinwheel 1 and 4
2 = pinwheel 2 and 5
3 = pinwheel 3 and 6

Very nice!! I am very curious about this Pinwheel thing but cant find any information anywhere about it. Can someone give me a lead to where I can find info and those pinwheel??

Thanks!!!

[RouletteGhost]

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16390.0

One: 14: 32,25,36,5,14,7,4,6,8,33,22,35
Two: 25: 15,17,11,24,31,28,21,27,23,1,18,3
Three: 36: 19,34,30,16,9,12,2,13,10,20,29,26

[RayManZ]

link:://:.kimoliroulette.com/

And just use google: Kimo Li pinwheel or just kimo li. You will get many usefull hits.

[SimonZed1]

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16390.0

Maybe I haven't drinked enough coffee this morning... Still dont get it... what are the numbers 14,25,36 means in front of the series?

Pinwheels:
14: 32,25,36,5,14,7,4,6,8,33,22,35
25: 15,17,11,24,31,28,21,27,23,1,18,3
36: 19,34,30,16,9,12,2,13,10,20,29,26

Simon.

[RouletteGhost]

I think you can ignore that

14 is pinwheel 1

25 is 2

36 is 3

[SimonZed1]

link:://:.kimoliroulette.com/

And just use google: Kimo Li pinwheel or just kimo li. You will get many usefull hits.

Thanks!! I had googled it but... didnt find anything interested...