Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[mogul397]

Im not trying to be a hard ass. But some of us are working hard on this

You have zumma? I know you do. So go for it. Rip that sucker out and test it.

You can guide a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Orochi posted by hand on paper like 10 sheets of real spins a couple pages back mogul.......

Post 1323. Page 89. I give him a lot of Credit for that

BTW, taking out a cell phone and posting a picture of scribble doesn't show much
effort. When I post results I type them in so they are clear. THAT is work.
I could post NOTEBOOKS of pages and pages of actual casino play..

FYI, historically I do not remember a SINGLE example of you posting any
actual play results. Not one. In fact I can remember more times that you said
you were going to play, didn't play, and didn't even report that.

[RouletteGhost]

Orochi. Another thought. Rarely do we win on the 3rd spin

Most wins are 1st or 2nd try

Never have i seen a win on 3rd spin happen twice in a row after a trigger

So my idea now is

Bet against previous 3. 1st two spins only with a 1 3 progression

Next mini game bet against that same trigger this time with a 1 3 with larger units

So

221 happens
Bet against 221. 1st 2 spins only
221 shows, lost 1st 2 spins. Now we have your trigger
Next bet against 221 again 1st 2 spins only

Something like this

$1, $3
If lose next mini game
$8, $24

Should work just fine. Using this method i havent seen a win on 3rd try twice in a row. They are isolated. Id consider it safe

Less risk cutting it off at 2 tries

In every test i have done, The law has done, Celescliff has done. All 3rd bet win attempts are isolated

So based on the thousands of spins i have seen its safe

[RouletteGhost]

Now this thread that
seems to never end with a hard conclusion about what "works".

This thread is in the notepad

Forum definition steve has written for the notepad as seen on homepage:

"The Notepad
Write down your ideas and discuss new concepts."

So we are doing EXACTLY what its designed for. discussing a new concept. aka "grassroots"

If you cannot keep up, or if you do not like it, this goes for you and anyone else: leave the thread. And go make a better thread.

Cause a lot of us are learning

Also i will add by me keeping this thread up has caused new members to join and post. So thats that.

If you want clear conclusions the NOTEPAD is not for you

I dont care if we hit 1 million pages and i hit 1 million posts

You cried for a trip report in 5 posts. I provided a trip report

Now u want me to post real spin results from the casino

I posted endless charts from zumma tests.

I enjoy testing and tweaking and reading other tweaks.

I dont want to argue with u but these r things u need to hear

If i ran into you in a CT or MA casino id buy you a beer though

Also. You keep referencing my HG group. So im gonna put this out in the open once and for all. I made a private group at the request of members here to discuss a Lanky matrix. I was asked to do so, so we can talk openly without negativity. I banned you because you didnt get it and made several different threads doing what you are doing here. I asked you to keep it in one thread but you kept making new threads bashing it. It was my group. I didnt have to give you a platform to bash it. I invited you to be nice. I didnt make a forum to keep it a secret. About 40 people from here enjoyed it. So thats that. To this day you dont understand the lanky matrix. I stoped playing it because a trigger takes hours.  The time i spent on that thing i didnt need to read threads from you bashing it. So you had to go.

[SimonZed1]

If you cannot keep up, or if you do not like it, this goes for you and anyone else: leave the thread. And go make a better thread.

I still dont understand why people keep reading and replying to posts from people who just dont care about what we do and dont have anything better to do than to post here. There are certain people here on the forum that I simply dont read their replies and go right over them. I work a lot and have only the energy and time to focus on the main subject and to focus on the positive posts on the main subject.

These people just want attention. And do not provide anything else. Just stop replying to these posts. And they might simply go away get attention somewhere else.

[RouletteGhost]

I still dont understand why people keep reading and replying to posts from people who just dont care about what we do and dont have anything better to do than to post here. There are certain people here on the forum that I simply dont read their replies and go right over them. I work a lot and have only the energy and time to focus on the main subject and to focus on the positive posts on the main subject.

These people just want attention. And do not provide anything else. Just stop replying to these posts. And they might simply go away get attention somewhere else.

Well you are right

[SimonZed1]

Orochi. Another thought. Rarely do we win on the 3rd spin

Most wins are 1st or 2nd try

Never have i seen a win on 3rd spin happen twice in a row after a trigger

Indeed. I have seen the same thing on my testing. I wonder how we could exploit this.

[SimonZed1]

Another idea that have crossed my mind a few days ago is that I wonder if there are any correlation with other parts of the layout and wheel when we get something like 1,2,3,1,2,3... What I mean is I wonder if there is something else that could warn us of a possibility of a repeat.... Like the law of the third or something else....just an idea....

[RouletteGhost]

Another idea that have crossed my mind a few days ago is that I wonder if there are any correlation with other parts of the layout and wheel when we get something like 1,2,3,1,2,3... What I mean is I wonder if there is something else that could warn us of a possibility of a repeat.... Like the law of the third or something else....just an idea....

Split wheel into 3 groups of 12. Label them 1 2 3

Wait for a unique. Bet against it.

[RouletteGhost]

here is an old zumma test on dozens and columns i have used before

betting against previous 3

but using orochis principle when you have a repeat continue to bet against it

alternating between dozens and columns

went smooth all wins on 1st and 2nd except 1....

see row 23. CBA then CBB. its a loss cause i only bet 1st 2.

so now i do NOT alternate back to dozens. i wait for the mini game to expire then i bet against CBA again 1st two attempts only.

progression does not get deep with only a 1 3, just raise unit size for 2nd attempt on row 24. we may see CBA CBA but another CBA after unlikely

so after the loss, bet original trigger again and we only have 1 out of 860 chance of losing

Not the same as betting against previous 3. Because on a loss on the next mini game we bet the SAME trigger we lost on. Well that kinda makes sense sorta i guess. Hope ya get it

[RouletteGhost]

To add to above post

We can bet FIRST BET ONLY of each mini game

1 3 9 progression

Against previous 3

To lose that would be EXTREMELY rare

Looking at ALL charts from myself and celes NO loss

[SimonZed1]

To add to above post

We can bet FIRST BET ONLY of each mini game

1 3 9 progression

Against previous 3

To lose that would be EXTREMELY rare

Looking at ALL charts from myself and celes NO loss

Actually testing this. Will post results soon. No loss. Got close but... No loss.

I'm testing too many thing at the same time... I dont know on what to put more time. Everything is giving interesting results. I particularly like Moving Target... I can feel there is something in this.... Getting interesting results.

[RouletteGhost]

Actually testing this. Will post results soon. No loss. Got close but... No loss.

Highest i got was 2nd step

Bet every mini game against the previous 3 with first be only

[SimonZed1]

Highest i got was 2nd step

Bet every mini game against the previous 3 with first be only

Still testing with 1-3-9? On all your tests?

[RouletteGhost]

Still testing with 1-3-9? On all your tests?

Most. And 1 3 3

And flat. 1st bet only. Win goal 2 units. Safe for big units ya know?

[SimonZed1]

Most. And 1 3 3

And flat. 1st bet only. Win goal 2 units. Safe for big units ya know?

Thats what i'm looking for. I am not in the US. I can play anywhere online. I am looking for one big safe bet and i'm out.

Has all this ever been tested on RNG?