Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[RouletteGhost]

Not saying you're wrong, I'm only asking. People do it in different ways.

Myself? My preference...I post it and if you dont like the method, I won't lose sleep over it. Like I said, everyone is different though. Ken needs to worry about Ken.

RG needs to worry about RG etc.

POST....make some money at the casino....everyone else? Good luck.

Ken

When people test wrong or dont test at all and do nothing but inject negativity i have to counter it

Because it hurts the point.  And causes a few people to join but NOT post and only contact me via PM because they were turned off by the negativity

One guy up big with a variation. Wont post though. Only PM.

So it needs to change. If people disagree or dont like it goto another thread. Thats how i feel

When someone posts a method i leave it alone if i dont test it

If you disagree then post a test with proof of actual spins and show why it doesnt work.  Because there are people posting tests

[MrJ]

I was betting against 1,1,3

1 L - 1-1
1 L - 2-2
1 W - 3-3
1 L - 4-4
1 L - 6-6
1 W - 7-7

New Trigger 1,1,1 1,1,1

1 L - 10-10
1 L - 15-15
1 L - 18-18
3 W - 27-27
1 L - 33-33
O L - 49-49
2 W - 60-60
2 W - 90-90

Damm nightmare, but i won!

But i going to risk it again?! DAMN NO !!!! Lesson learn. I start with 10â,¬-10â,¬. If i lost how much it cost me !?!? To get 10â,¬ profit.

BINGO, this is my point. You won but in reality, its a big NO for the next time. Its not a playable situation for your nerves.

SOLUTION? >> Again, for most players, lower the unit size (I have no issue with that). Less risk and less sweaty palms. The down side?...ok we won but because of the lower units, is it NOW worth the time?

Ken

[keepontryin]

rg.........relax......no ones a pain each has there own take to this system ...or systems..... or method .....or strategy........its changed hands so much it seems to some as we keep going around and around and around.........as i say keepontryin

[RouletteGhost]

We are all friends (I think).....lets take a breath. I always wondered about locking a thread for 24 hours, just to cool off?

Ken  (GO PACK GO !!!!!) 3 damn points at the half? My team sucks this year, hate to say it.

i have work tomorrow after 4 days off. have to deal with the public at a car dealership. i am nothing more then annoyed

[MrJ]

i have work tomorrow after 4 days off. have to deal with the public at a car dealership. i am nothing more then annoyed

You mean your job?

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

yes

which i would like to replace with 2 hours a day at casino

[psimoes]

One thing I´d like to point out: only the actual bets should count as "real spins" when testing. If some method  only recommends to place a bet every 10 spins or so, you can´t say something like " still going strong after 2000 spins" when in fact it´s only holding for 200.

[RouletteGhost]

O.K.

[MrJ]

I offered this before.....start a new thread with the exact rules (copy/paste if needed) of the various ways to play it. I can then lock this.

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

Original poster, post #1 evidentally has the right idea in mind

All i believed from the beginning was that this is a good idea to build from

Grabbed this from a lotto site

"DON'T COUNT ON  1-2-3-4-5
It's the absolute worst number combina-tion to play in any lottery drawing. "It's guaranteed not to win," says Howard. Not only are these digits all at the tail end of the number spectrum, but the odds that consecutive numbers will ever be drawn are slim to none. Yet, it's the most popularly played number set. "Even after my 25 years of preaching against it, they (lottery retailers) still must sell 20,000 tickets every drawing with that combination," she says."

using the above quote, is it beyond the realm of possibility that dividing the wheel into 6 number groups (6 groups of 6 equals 36) and betting that they will not hit in order 1 2 3 4 5 6

[MrJ]

Original poster, post #1 evidentally has the right idea in mind

All i believed from the beginning was that this is a good idea to build from

Grabbed this from a lotto site

using the above quote, is it beyond the realm of possibility that dividing the wheel into 6 number groups (6 groups of 6 equals 36) and betting that they will not hit in order 1 2 3 4 5 6

To make it easier for betting, what about the DS's, 1-6? Either one bet or 3 splits.

Ken

[mogul397]

Original poster, post #1 evidentally has the right idea in mind

All i believed from the beginning was that this is a good idea to build from

Grabbed this from a lotto site

using the above quote, is it beyond the realm of possibility that dividing the wheel into 6 number groups (6 groups of 6 equals 36) and betting that they will not hit in order 1 2 3 4 5 6

I agree. It's like a lot of things where you have to stop, and reset your thinking. And go back to
the original premise.  I like the original 123. And I think that fashioning a method where you lean in
a direction of more hits, and not too much money risk is a better place for a method that you can
play without blood pressure meds.

I think that placing the loss in a position of "less likely" is a good one. In accordance with what Ken
has been saying about not fooling yourself with a notebook of results, but real ones that you can
deal with in reality.

And this last one about the 1,2,3,4,5,6 thing has merit. Prerhaps fodder for the new thread where
we can rip each other apart for 100 pages.  It's really a masochistic thing here in the forum. Like
hockey used to be. Nothing better than a good brawl.

Anyway, I can't speak to statistics, but it almost does seem like a winner to just sit and play against
a 1,2,3, and take the occasional 28 unit loss. Maybe something like double your unit after a loss for
some recoup, figuring that lightning won't strike twice in the same place.

But again, embracing the "unlikely".

(See you in the next thread. Who's going to start it?)

[RouletteGhost]

Anyway, I can't speak to statistics, but it almost does seem like a winner to just sit and play against
a 1,2,3, and take the occasional 28 unit loss. Maybe something like double your unit after a loss for
some recoup, figuring that lightning won't strike twice in the same place.

But again, embracing the "unlikely".

(See you in the next thread. Who's going to start it?)

That is what i promoted. Actually you just paraphrased what i had said a few times

The fact is playing against 1 2 3 with a 1 3 9 we will lose. No doubt we will hit a 123

It has shown to work hit and run. Also ive seen pages in zumma that do not have a single 123 at all. Ive yet to see 123123. Havent seen it yet.

A 66k spin test had 123 repeat back to back (123 123) 31 times. Thats roughly every 2000 spins. 2 separate casino visits i wont 7 units and then 10 units playing this way. With money i can afford to lose of course.

So if that is good enough for an individual player then yes you can play against 123 then when lose increase the 139 unit size

Everyones different.

But for me if i had the bankroll

Id do 10 10, 30 30, 90 90
If lose
          50 50, 150 150, 450 450
IF I HAD THAT KIND OF MONEY TO THROW AROUND. i said many times this should work wonders for very small unit sIze. penny players. Would be very small risk.

Will i win a lot. Probably. Will i hit 123123. Eventually.......and it will hurt

But food for thought for hit and run. The chances of 123123 happening immediately are as slim as me and you being best buds. So it is "safe" in my opinion

Have free time like yourself? Wait for a 123 then begin

No need for any negative remarks from anyone. These are my thoughts.

[mogul397]

That is what i promoted. Actually you just paraphrased what i had said a few times

The fact is playing against 1 2 3 with a 1 3 9 we will lose. No doubt we will hit a 123

It has shown to work hit and run. Also ive seen pages in zumma that do not have a single 123 at all. Ive yet to see 123123. Havent seen it yet.

A 66k spin test had 123 repeat back to back (123 123) 31 times. Thats roughly every 2000 spins. 2 separate casino visits i wont 7 units and then 10 units playing this way. With money i can afford to lose of course.

So if that is good enough for an individual player then yes you can play against 123 then when lose increase the 139 unit size

Everyones different.

But for me if i had the bankroll

Id do 10 10, 30 30, 90 90
If lose
          50 50, 150 150, 450 450
IF I HAD THAT KIND OF MONEY TO THROW AROUND. i said many times this should work wonders for very small unit sIze. penny players. Would be very small risk.

Will i win a lot. Probably. Will i hit 123123. Eventually.......and it will hurt

But food for thought for hit and run. The chances of 123123 happening immediately are as slim as me and you being best buds. So it is "safe" in my opinion

Have free time like yourself? Wait for a 123 then begin

No need for any negative remarks from anyone. These are my thoughts.

This is very true. But why does it have to be 123?  Why not just whatever pattern
of 3 that just happened.

As to the 123 or 123123, the "loss" would have to be in sync with the outcome.
You would literally have to not bet that exact spin. You might start the series
1-2 before or after the "1". Which is likely.

[RouletteGhost]

This is very true. But why does it have to be 123?  Why not just whatever pattern
of 3 that just happened.

You meam against previous 3?

With the correct money management it may be a winner