Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[Nick-the-Greek]

Seems this is a common theme here for years.  Some stay and some open up their own forums, many just fade away or stop posting.  It's unfortunate that such immaturity prevails.  Debates are healthy.  Making personal comments or thwarting someone's initiative is inappropriate and unprofessional.

100% agree - best move is to ignore the 'energy stealers', they are everywhere and not just on this forum.
What they hate most is when the people they are trying to include in their negativity don't respond to their comments.
PM's have their place but we don't want this form going' underground' so please keep posting and just ignore the comments that you feel are trying to drag us down - they will soon get the message and move on.
Nick

[Az_MAX]

Just finish online playing, here is results:

51 spins, betting against D3 will create a unique with non-agressive parlay progression:
10 betting situations, 6 wins, 4 losses. Total + 2 units

The same game, 51 spins, bet against randomly chosen unique pattern (I chose  1-3-2), parlay prog  :
17 betting situations, 13 wins at the first bet, 3 wins at second bet, 1 lose (0-1-1, lose on zero) Total + 11

[Tacwell]

I came to this forum to learn and in less than a week there are a few members that seem to be quite knowledgeable and willing to share their thoughts and ideas but there are also a lot of other members that act just plain rude and ignorant.
Shouldn't you, as a moderator, be doing something about this?

Try reading through this thread from the beginning and you'll see who's been rude and ignorant. The mods have extremely patient imo, and allowed it to continue for too long, and now you're seeing the results. Someone is unable to handle constructive criticism and takes it as a personal attack. This will continue until this thread is closed.

[Turner]

Try reading through this thread from the beginning and you'll see who's been rude and ignorant. The mods have extremely patient imo, and allowed it to continue for too long, and now you're seeing the results. Someone is unable to handle constructive criticism and takes it as a personal attack. This will continue until this thread is closed.

[Nick-the-Greek]

Just have another idea. We have 18 dozen format variations (non-zero):
111, 211, 311
112, 212, 312
113, 213, 313
121, 221, 321
122, 222, 322
123, 223, 323
131, 231, 331
132, 232, 332
133, 233, 333

Why not just bet against one of these 18 variation randomly? For example, sit on the table and bet against 332 will happen. And after 3 spins occurs, bet against 221 or 121.

Choosing one of the 27 variations to bet against after every mini spin does give you a time advantage as you are not such a 'static target' as betting against 1 2 3 all the time, however the run from hell will turn up eventually so the key to winning with this system is money management and there are suggestions on this thread how to build up your bank to deal with this hit when it occurs.

You can also cut the variations down to 6 'unique' sequences which also works well:

123
231
312
132
321
213

100+ page thread it a lot to read through, however you will find all these ideas and comments already posted.

Nick

[Az_MAX]

Yes, thank you Nick-the-Greek.

What if, we chose randomly from that 6 unique for which one of them to bet for the next 3 spins. And then again chose another one for next 3 spins. And again etc.

[Nick-the-Greek]

The 'moving target' idea does work, however it is still down to 'luck' that you join the table at the right time and build up enough in the bank to ride the RFH when it hits.

Out of interest where are you playing and single or double zero wheels?

I've just started playing/testing at CelticCasino.com on their double zero wheel as the 1 2 3 sequence does not hit as many times as a euro wheel - must be the wheel layout!
Nick

[Az_MAX]

The 'moving target' idea does work, however it is still down to 'luck' that you join the table at the right time and build up enough in the bank to ride the RFH when it hits.

Out of interest where are you playing and single or double zero wheels?

I've just started playing/testing at CelticCasino.com on their double zero wheel as the 1 2 3 sequence does not hit as many times as a euro wheel - must be the wheel layout!
Nick

I'am playing single zero wheel.

Just played auto-wheel(airball) with real money and have those results:
2-1-3
3-2-1
2-3-3
3-1-2
3-1-2
3-1-1
2-1-3
2-3-3
1-1-3

5 uniques ! I played against 1-3-2 unique all time with parlay progression + 9 units.

[Celticknits]

100% agree - best move is to ignore the 'energy stealers', they are everywhere and not just on this forum.
What they hate most is when the people they are trying to include in their negativity don't respond to their comments.
PM's have their place but we don't want this form going' underground' so please keep posting and just ignore the comments that you feel are trying to drag us down - they will soon get the message and move on.
Nick

Well said.

-Celtic

[iggiv]

RG, we talked about Falkor. So far he is not trying to sell so we are not in rush. You see there is no rule like ban anyone who had bad behaviour before. Matters what he is doing now. So basically everyone here knows what he can be up to. He publishes something so what. As long as we can't see visible attempts to scam. As it happened a year ago. When he does he'll be kicked out of here. And he knows it too.

[iggiv]

RG, it's nothing easier than judging mods who you don't like. And it's up to you what you wanna do. As I am concerned I have never tried to shut your ideas and your freedom of speech right.

[mogul397]

Disgusting

Not into slots. Never was. They're like lottery tickets.  Income tax  on people who are bad
at math.

But I do know, they can be prime real estate, once you get one.

[mogul397]

Had just testing in airball:
117 spins.
25 betting situations: 19 wins, 6 losses.
Just flat betting.
+ 7 at the end

Example:
2-2 no bet. next dozen is 2nd.
2-1 bet on 1-2. next dozen is 2nd. Win
2-3 bet on 2-3. next dozen is 3rd. Win

etc

We forget (as people who initially advertised it and left. Probably cleaning up)
about the flat bet.  Seems to make the most sense.

[mogul397]

Positive prog after a win.

with this you will have win streaks and you wont have to wait for them or very minimal waiting.

Flat bet then on a win (probably first attempt) increase chip size. Within a short amount of time you hit a nice streak with this bet selection and the positive prog will explode the BR

You will have 3 to 10 mini games in a row no uniques frequently. Capitalize on that

A little off topic, but this was the direction I had been heading with craps. Just
parlay wins. It's exciting. And it puts you on the winning side of what would
be that "catastrophe", that is supposedly elusive, but ends up happening easier
that you think.

[mogul397]

Have another live airball test

Betting against 3rd dozen will create a unique.
90 spins, 17 betting situations, 13 wins, 4 losses.
Flat betting ends with +5 units

Test these with the progression non-agressive progression: 1-1,2-2,3-3,4-4
Ends with +8 units

Thanks Az max. I love your (or anyones) trip reports.  I am in a cast now and someday
won't be.. As I watch and study all this, maybe I'm dodging a bullet and will end up at
a place of comfort in a betting strategy.