Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[SimonZed1]

Credit goes to ATI:


, I've check the same thing on 100k live spins.
These are the stats for the 123 dozen pattern.

123 - 3397 times
123 1 - 1041 times
123 12 - 339 times
123 123 - 126 times
123 123 1 - 43 times
123 123 12 - 16 times
123 123 123 - 8 times
123 123 123 1 - 2 times
123 123 123 12 - 2 times
123 123 123 123 - 0 times

Nice info RG! Thanks!!

[SimonZed1]

Pretty interesting stuff. Here is a little preliminary testing. Let me know if I am doing it right or not.


323 / 231 / 321 / 301 / 312 / 231 / 111 / 122 / 322 / 211 / 123 / 323 / 112 / 232 /

                                                     (321)(321)
123 / 322 / 002 / 212 / 221 / 111 / 221 / 322 / 110 / 323 / 113 / 232 / 230 /
                                                      +1     +1
        (123)(123)
233 / 322 / 331 / 121 / 123 / 031 /
          +1     +1


Number in bold are the games I watched beacose of a 1-2 or 2-3 dominant games. The games in bold and underlined are the ones I actually bet on. The number above those in bold are the series from which I bet against. The +1 under is the units won.

Let me know what you think about it and if I am on the right track.

I was wondering, what do you do if you get 3 minigames where you have only the 1st and 3rd dozens? Do you bet against something? What about the Zero? How do you count it when it appear in a minigame?

Simon.

[mogul397]

here is part from my session yesterday  where I simply avoided 1-2-3:

9 32 30 | 12 13 22 | 8 5 13 | 14 23 1 | 16 12 35 | 10 7 11 | 1 24 27 | 24 9 18 | 20 18 16 | 17 29 7 | 27 18 29 | etc.

So normally I just come to casino write down 20 numbers that hit before (it shows on the screen) divide mini games of 3, check dozens and columns. So in the example I gave before just check columns that hit before 1-2-3 combination hits (highlighted with red).

Writing the above numbers as dozens:

1 3 3 | 1 2 2 | 1 1 2 | 2 2 1 | 2 1 2 | 1 1 1 | 1 2 3 | 2 1 2 | 2 2 2 | 2 3 1 | 3 2 3 | etc.

So just look at it. Starting from first 1 3 3 mini game it switches to dozens 1 and 2. Why would you even try to bet in this case against sequence 1-2-3 to happen? Coz as for me it is most likely that 1-2-3 will happen there and boom! 1-2-3 happened. I was betting against 3-2-1 during that trend - won all. After that you can see that trend switched to dozens 2, 3 and was up for like next 12 spins. I was betting there against 1-2-3 - won all as well. I play the same way with columns. I don't bet every spin. I wait for the most favorable conditions. I think it's better to miss chance to win than lose.

There are other factors should be taken into account - hot  numbers, cold numbers, part of the wheel that hits the most, less.

I tried it not only here in my casino in S.Korea. I played in Macau as well - Holidays Inn Hotel casino, Hard Rock Hotel Casino. 4 days 2 hour sessions in the morning. Covered all my and gf costs for trip - 3000$ total for both of us.

I can call it luck once or twice, but I am up a lot.

It is a great system. Just need to learn when to jump in. See that conditions that favor you, because if you will play like machine against machine you will have no chances.   

So from this part of you post,,,,

1 3 3 | 1 2 2 | 1 1 2 | 2 2 1 | 2 1 2 | 1 1 1 | 1 2 3 | 2 1 2 | 2 2 2 | 2 3 1 | 3 2 3 | etc.

So just look at it. Starting from first 1 3 3 mini game it switches to dozens 1 and 2. Why would you even try to bet in this case against sequence 1-2-3 to happen? Coz as for me it is most likely that 1-2-3 will happen there and boom! 1-2-3 happened. I was betting against 3-2-1 during that trend - won all. After that you can see that trend switched to dozens 2, 3 and was up for like next 12 spins. I was betting there against 1-2-3 - won all as well. I play the same way with columns. I don't bet every spin. I wait for the most favorable conditions. I think it's better to miss chance to win than lose.


I don't get what you are saying.  You point out the "1 2 3".  Somehow you are betting
against "3-2-1" up to that point?  I don't see the logic or how 3-2-1 relates to the 1-2-3.
You talk about the trends like you know they will happen. And also like you actually bet
them every spin. The whole paragraph is confusing.

[RouletteGhost]

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[SimonZed1]

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Lol. I'm so confused.... 

Simon.

[RouletteGhost]

Lol. I'm so confused.... 

Simon.

I completely understood what you said. I dont comprehend his confusion

[SimonZed1]

5. Martingale:  50-50, 200-200, 700-700

If I play with a bankroll like that and loose, I'm gonna shoot myself in the head!! 

For now, I'm playing with 0.10$ units... And I'm having a lot of fun with this!

Simon.

[mogul397]

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LOL.  Really. That got a bellie laugh.

But either way, splain it.  Looks like alphabet soup to me.

On a spin by spin basis, point out what you would bet, or not bet,
and why.  (Killer........)

[mogul397]

Lol. I'm so confused.... 

Simon.

I think a "WTF" is called for. But not with the usual meaning
that the forum has.

[mogul397]

To clarify

1 3 3 | 1 2 2 | 1 1 2 | 2 2 1 | 2 1 2 | 1 1 1 | 1 2 3 | 2 1 2 | 2 2 2 | 2 3 1 | 3 2 3 | etc.

So just look at it. Starting from first 1 3 3 mini game it switches to dozens 1 and 2. Why would you even try to bet in this case against sequence 1-2-3 to happen? Coz as for me it is most likely that 1-2-3 will happen there and boom! 1-2-3 happened. I was betting against 3-2-1 during that trend - won all. After that you can see that trend switched to dozens 2, 3 and was up for like next 12 spins. I was betting there against 1-2-3 - won all as well. I play the same way with columns. I don't bet every spin. I wait for the most favorable conditions. I think it's better to miss chance to win than lose.


Looking back at the results, WITHOUT the benefit of hindsight, he's talking about writing
down 20 results.  But then, somehow, he's referring to those same 20 results as his
rational for betting 3-2-1   BEFORE he was able to see the data to tell him that.

What is also funny, is that magically a 1-2-3 turns up.  Which is on the rarer side.
It sound more like low hanging fruit for a 1-2-3 to turn up, then against it.

There is no actual logic anywhere.

"Hey look RG. The lottery # today was 1-2-3!!!!!!  (I was going to play that.
Really)."

[mogul397]

So here's how the whole thing plays out.

1) I'm going to make a judgement based on some data that hasn't happened yet.
I'm going to assume that it has a lot of 1's and 2's (I guess ).

2) Based on this hypothetical information I'm going to say that I should bet
against 3-2-1. On what basis, I don't know.......

3)  But LOOK!!!!!! !!!  Somehow in this small sample the ACTUAL
pattern I wanted to avoid turns up!!!!      "1-2-3".

4) When I see "1-2-3", I guess I figure that lightning doesn't strike twice in
the same place. So I switch to betting against it!!!!

5)  Oh, BTW, I don't bet every spin.  But somehow I was winning all of them,
while spinning this logical web. Dodging bullets.  All of what? If you are packaging
things in groups of 3 that only allows you 1 bet out of 3. And (supposedly  )
You were waiting those first 20 spins that you knew would happen. So you can't
count those.

(Unless it's convenient to your argument).

And NO RG. I'm not drunk.  Sober 14 years.  Maybe a good excuse for you to
not stop.........

[JahVinci]

So here's how the whole thing plays out.

1) I'm going to make a judgement based on some data that hasn't happened yet.
I'm going to assume that it has a lot of 1's and 2's (I guess ).

2) Based on this hypothetical information I'm going to say that I should bet
against 3-2-1. On what basis, I don't know.......

3)  But LOOK!!!!!! !!!  Somehow in this small sample the ACTUAL
pattern I wanted to avoid turns up!!!!      "1-2-3".

4) When I see "1-2-3", I guess I figure that lightning doesn't strike twice in
the same place. So I switch to betting against it!!!!

5)  Oh, BTW, I don't bet every spin.  But somehow I was winning all of them,
while spinning this logical web. Dodging bullets.  All of what? If you are packaging
things in groups of 3 that only allows you 1 bet out of 3. And (supposedly  )
You were waiting those first 20 spins that you knew would happen. So you can't
count those.

(Unless it's convenient to your argument).

And NO RG. I'm not drunk.  Sober 14 years.  Maybe a good excuse for you to
not stop.........

Geez, so much hate.  Why do you even bother so much if it "has no logic"? Close the thread and never get back here. Easy.

With this "no logic" I am 34k$ up currenlty. Today morning win - 780$.   

[RouletteGhost]

Geez, so much hate.  Why do you even bother so much if it "has no logic"? Close the thread and never get back here. Easy.

With this "no logic" I am 34k$ up currenlty. Today morning win - 780$.

He doesnt realize that simonzed was showing the results and explaining what he was playing based on what he was seeing

There were many 1s and 2s so he was playing against 321

Not even worthy of a response

[RouletteGhost]

Id like to master the favorable conditions where we should bet against 123 or 321

[The General]

Have you tried playing while wearing a green shirt?  It will probably win more if you wear a green shirt.  If that doesn't work, then try the blue one.  Yes, the blue one should work.