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Basics - that no one wants to hear

Started by TurboGenius, Nov 21, 09:04 AM 2015

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TurboGenius

Quote from: MrJ on Apr 17, 12:30 PM 2016
Off to the casino, later fellas!!!

Ken

I'd say "good luck" but luck is a made up 'thing'. So I'll just say "Use your talents and win !"
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Foolwise

>>>>>>>>But the facts can be a tough pill to swallow.
>>>>>>>>That is my argument as well.

How is predicting the future going? How is ignoring the past going?  It is easy to say what not to do. It is tougher to show or say what to do. Whatever you are preaching, I am guessing is all leading to and no different than someone who play with triggers or based on past spins. Sometimes fact can be a tough pill to swallow. Completely sold on this one. There is nothing like playing based on future, present and past, its all the same old wine in a new bottle.

Another fact which might be a tough pill to swallow. People think increasing the bet unit sizes on winning is a better proposition compared to increasing them while losing. Welcome to the future. It is all the same cr*p. Unless you have an advantage in your selection, however you might twist and turn your money, it makes no difference whether you are increasing on winning or increasing on losing. I could go on and on. But the toughest part is showing what to do and not what not to do.
The fool doth think he is wise; but the wise man knows himself to be a fool

3Nine

Quote from: Foolwise on May 03, 08:24 AM 2016
>>>>>>>>But the facts can be a tough pill to swallow.
>>>>>>>>That is my argument as well.

How is predicting the future going? How is ignoring the past going?  It is easy to say what not to do. It is tougher to show or say what to do. Whatever you are preaching, I am guessing is all leading to and no different than someone who play with triggers or based on past spins. Sometimes fact can be a tough pill to swallow. Completely sold on this one. There is nothing like playing based on future, present and past, its all the same old wine in a new bottle.

Another fact which might be a tough pill to swallow. People think increasing the bet unit sizes on winning is a better proposition compared to increasing them while losing. Welcome to the future. It is all the same cr*p. Unless you have an advantage in your selection, however you might twist and turn your money, it makes no difference whether you are increasing on winning or increasing on losing. I could go on and on. But the toughest part is showing what to do and not what not to do.

One chases losses, the other doesn't.  Choose wisely.

Do I turn the wheel,
or does the wheel turn me?

Foolwise

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One chases losses, the other doesn't.  Choose wisely.
No one is chasing losses. If there is a loss, is there a written rule that it will be followed by losses. similary, if there is a win, is there a rule somewhere that says that it will be followed by wins.

Depending on what transpires when you are playing, one method might lose faster than the other. There is no guarantee that increasing on losses will lose faster than increasing on wins. At the end of the day, the hard truth is both of them fail unless you increase the accuracy of your bets. And if you are able to increase the accuracy of bets, it does not matter which one you are using.
The fool doth think he is wise; but the wise man knows himself to be a fool

3Nine

Quote from: Foolwise on May 03, 08:43 AM 2016
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One chases losses, the other doesn't.  Choose wisely.
No one is chasing losses. If there is a loss, is there a written rule that it will be followed by losses. similary, if there is a win, is there a rule somewhere that says that it will be followed by wins.

Depending on what transpires when you are playing, one method might lose faster than the other. There is no guarantee that increasing on losses will lose faster than increasing on wins. At the end of the day, the hard truth is both of them fail unless you increase the accuracy of your bets. And if you are able to increase the accuracy of bets, it does not matter which one you are using.

Ok, cool.  My bankroll disagrees. 

Do I turn the wheel,
or does the wheel turn me?

Foolwise

>>>>>>>>>>>>Ok, cool.  My bankroll disagrees.
Good for you. One lucky soul.
The fool doth think he is wise; but the wise man knows himself to be a fool

falkor2k15

If past spins have no value then does that mean virtual spins also have no value? If you look at how Priyanka plays over in the "Random Thoughts" topic she always waits for virtual spins before attacking; she seemingly has no system where she can bet every spin.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

The General

QuoteIf past spins have no value then does that mean virtual spins also have no value? If you look at how Priyanka plays over in the "Random Thoughts" topic she always waits for virtual spins before attacking; she seemingly has no system where she can bet every spin.

Do virtual spins reduce the number of pockets that remain on the wheel from one spin to the next? 

Answer:  Of course not.

Virtual spins are a fool's folly.   Virtual bets leave the players mind trapped in the box that is the gambler's fallacy.

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

TurboGenius

Quote from: falkor2k15 on May 03, 10:24 AM 2016If past spins have no value then does that mean virtual spins also have no value?

Correct

Quote from: The General on May 03, 10:55 AM 2016Virtual spins are a fool's folly.   Virtual bets leave the players mind trapped in the box that is the gambler's fallacy.

Correct
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TurboGenius

I think it's time to take a break from forums (again) and return at some point (maybe in the not-too-distant future).

When I log in and all I see in nonsense and absurdity it's probably time to take a break. lol
I leave you to your 80 page threads and following the nonsense of "professors" and "prophets" while throwing rocks
at the people who could show you the way. It's a waste of my time (again).
My email is always available, feel free to use it. Sometimes it takes a while for me to reply but if you're annoying me enough - I'll get back to you. - Or, see you in AC - I'm the guy sitting in the first seat by the wheel with (more than likely) the most chips
stacked in-front of me, but trust me - it's all luck, I have no idea what I'm talking about.  :thumbsup:
Cheers

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Tomla021

adios Turbo---happy trails to you
"No Whining, just Winning"

denzie

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jun 07, 09:20 PM 2016
I think it's time to take a break from forums (again) and return at some point (maybe in the not-too-distant future).

When I log in and all I see in nonsense and absurdity it's probably time to take a break. lol
I leave you to your 80 page threads and following the nonsense of "professors" and "prophets" while throwing rocks
at the people who could show you the way. It's a waste of my time (again).
My email is always available, feel free to use it. Sometimes it takes a while for me to reply but if you're annoying me enough - I'll get back to you. - Or, see you in AC - I'm the guy sitting in the first seat by the wheel with (more than likely) the most chips
stacked in-front of me, but trust me - it's all luck, I have no idea what I'm talking about.  :thumbsup:
Cheers



Sorry to hear that. I for one was following everything you published. I thought you trying to teach us...but of course your clues are vague and not clear. So that's why people have no idea what you try to tell us.

About professor etc...we need to respect each and all of us who try help to beat this game.

About the guy with the most chips. I think that would be Pryanka. He is just a level to high for all of us.

And I've tried some of your logics with betting what's happening  (hot? )....still not sure how you play ... but you use a positive progression right? 1-6 numbers ?
Im trying to bet the 2hits nrs ....so far I'm won more than I lost....anyway its a work in progress.

Take care TG....hopefully see you at the tables here too....I wanna see you beat that 1,0....average.
As spins roll off our predictions get better

The General

Turbo,

I know how you feel.  The infection of ignorance is severe.  Too many minds are trapped in foolish nonsense like the law of the third crap.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

denzie

Quote from: The General on Jun 08, 01:07 AM 2016
Turbo,

I know how you feel.  The infection of ignorance is severe.  Too many minds are trapped in foolish nonsense like the law of the third crap.

General. ....

Just start a thread where you explain how to bet....instead of giving vague directions
...don't get me wrong here but anybody can give vague advice. Even one whom never played a spin in his life. At least your results aren't to bad at the tables here. So you must be doing something good or just luck.

(I noticed how most long time members having 0,9 or less)

As Turbo said all doesn't work. ...so for me I think..ok you got my attention. ...I'm listening. ..but nothing comes out
..just vague advice....

Try to do better and people will listen you for sure.

Denz
As spins roll off our predictions get better

The General

I given detailed enough info. 
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

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