1st 12#'s in X spins

[nottophammer]

These numbers are 2 sheets in Gut topic Gut 9/10 Paddy Power. Just made the run continue from where i jumped

1   21   1
2   29   2
3   31   3
4   25   4
5   17   5
6   9   6
7   31   
8   16   7
9   10   8
10   35   9
11   1   10
12   5   11
13   31   
14   21   
15   2   12
16   0   L
17   6   L
18   4   L
19   7   L
20   36   L
21   5   W
22   20   1
23   13   2
24   16   3
25   21   4
26   13   
27   35   5
28   1   6
29   34   7
30   11   8
31   21   
32   17   9
33   35   
34   16   
35   12   10
36   7   11
37   0   12
38   21   W
39   7   1
40   29   2
41   33   3
42   27   4
43   9   5
44   18   6
45   15   7
46   14   8
47   10   9
48   27   
49   9   
50   2   10
51   21   11
52   32   12
53   3   L
54   30   L
55   7   W
56      
57      
58      
59      
60      
      

[RouletteGhost]

This really is fantastic it's a good way to utilize the fact there will always be repeats with in 37 spins

[nottophammer]

Just back from ladbrokes £60.00 in £78.60 out  under an hour.

okay on screen left by someone 6,4,13,29,26,12,27,27,29,8.   so 8 unique in last 10 that have been left, so my spins start
9,26,21,33,32   the 12 are 6,4,13,29,26,12,27,8,9,21,33,32.  1st spin 26 win.
That would be if started with the numbers left.
As you see i start with 9. The 12 unique come at 19th spin 31, takes 3 spins to win.
The next 12 unique take 15 spins, i made the wrong decision,thought i'd wait a couple of spins,but wins 1st spin.
Next 12 unique take 14 spins, again thought i'd wait,right decision as you see £2.4 win.

Now Gut, on the KTF column we have 9/10, so by the 40th spin with 15 non hit expected in 30 spins we should read 24+0,but its 23  -1 only 14 hit.
So watching the trot you can see the 10th 0X hits #1, so watching we see the next 3 spins are 1X's so the 0X's are low, next spin win.
Now bit disappointed here as the 3X's have already hit, lot of the time it can come after 19th spin,but as you can see 3 more spins and the 2nd 3X hits, but not on it.
Bet the 40th spin would be a 0X hit as we have 23 non hit at spin 35, but bet 1,1,2 win

Theres the old classic 12-12-11-9 at spin 43, my decision is bet the 0X+1X 24 #'s and win, if you look to the KTF column you see the 24,25,26th have hit,so waited another 0X, 4 on the trot, so the bet for me is 1X+>1 lose,rebet and win. Now dropped the >1 only bet the 1X's, but again a 0X 29th number to hit in 48 spins,surely to many 0X's have come,so rebet the 1X's, it takes 4 spins to get the win.

So success all round.

[nottophammer]

Forgot to say middle of the trot, not that i was interested but theres a nice line of 1 colour.

[nottophammer]

LADS 21.12.15  whilst playing i made a mistake on the sheet, but this strategy still wins.


1   9   1
2   26   2
3   21   3
4   33   4
5   32   5
6   26   
7   22   6
8   13   7
9   27   8
10   25   9
11   33   
12   1   10
13   9   
14   13   
15   9   
16   15   11
17   21   
18   27   
19   31   12
20   8   L
21   16   L
22   33   W
23   16   1
24   36   2
25   30   3
26   7   4
27   12   5
28   27   6
29   34   7
30   25   8
31   19   9
32   14   10
33   25   
34   35   11
35   5   12
36   22   L
37   9   L
38   35   W
39   5   1
40   34   2
41   30   3
42   11   4
43   3   5
44   28   6
45   0   7
46   2   8
47   27   9
48   23   10
49   34   
50   17   11
51   2   
52   9   12
53   21   L
54   19   L
55   21   L
56   28   W
57      
58      
59      
60      
      
61      
62      

[RouletteGhost]

Why dont you play with large units

Bring in some real hard euros

[nottophammer]

out of curiosity how would the 12 unique fair in the 37 spin cycle.
After the 1st 12 unique win, it gets another 5 wins, all within the bookies progression. As you can see whilst collecting the next 12 unique the 37 spin cycle ends, but the 1st gets 5 wins.
RG on the machine if you started with £1 unit you'd hit the max bet to quick, the RNG providers know this, thats why when you use progresion you have to start with .20p then .40,.60.80 £1.00 it then takes you to £2.00 units.
Would only be able to go 1,1,2,3,4,6,8 if on the 8 be slight loss, where as .20p you can go for 9, bet your bottom dollar the rng providers know whats capable, now the ? is to programme for 10 chances would they be opening themselves to a disadvantage
Bit off track here but once i was betting 18 numbers after the 19th had hit, there was 18 repeats before it put the 20th in,
so was it watching or just the way the numbers came.


1   9   1   
2   26   2   
3   21   3   
4   33   4   
5   32   5   
6   26      
7   22   6   
8   13   7   
9   27   8   
10   25   9   
11   33      
12   1   10   
13   9      
14   13      
15   9      
16   15   11   
17   21      
18   27      
19   31   12   
20   8   L   
21   16   L   
22   33   W   
23   16   1   
24   36   2   
25   30   3   
26   7   4   
27   12   5   
28   27   6   w
29   34   7   
30   25   8   w
31   19   9   
32   14   10   
33   25      w
34   35   11   
35   5   12   
36   22   L   w
37   9   L   w

[nottophammer]

Heres one for all of you.
It involves  7 #'s   a whole d/s and the other #. Again on RNG about 5 years ago, it stuck in my mind.
Dave who was betting  numbers 30 to 36  for £40.00, scattered in different amounts.
What do 30,31,32,33,34,35,36 cover,
1  d/s
2 3#'s from the tier
3 2#'s going from the left of the tier
4 2#'s going from the right of the tier
5  all in bottom 19
6  3 odd 4 even,   theres more but you see the picture.

As hes got 7 #'s we can say 1/6th of the wheel is covered, would math say after 6spins it should hit 1?.

Well it took 18 spins to give a winning number, and one of the cheapest.

So was the rng cheating

[nottophammer]

Just starting out on this idea, so i'll use aspers live spins. Even i dont know if this will work.
Collect the 1st 12 numbers no repeats

aspers   mk
33  01
02  02
18  03
12  04
13  05
29  06
25  07
04  08
26  09
15  10
21  11
20  12     so thinking along the lines of Gut  no repeat yet, so if next spin is a non hit,13 straight, so 2 more spins to get to 15
08  13     straight non hit, Winkel shows this happened 3 times in 200,000 odd spins
16  14     well 14, i'd be betting the 1st 12#'s 33-2-18-12-13   -29-25-4-   26-15-21-   20, bet 12 units,12 units now 24 units
12   R      win.
34           Okay we've won, so would you now sit out till 37 spins have gone and then collect the 1st 12#'s again.
9             or start again from 34.
18
30
20
30
7
14
12
13
22
12
29
21
35
20
23
19
34
2
16
7
16
21
25
19
4
33
20
32
24
3
14
0
29
13
7

So heres where i started seeing how long before one of the 12 unique wins.
Well how does it go if we just use those 12 unique

1   33   1         
2   2   2         
3   18   3         
4   12   4         
5   13   5         
6   29   6         
7   25   7         
8   4   8         
9   26   9         
10   15   10         
11   21   11         
12   20   12         
13   8   L         
14   16   L         
15   12   W         
16   34   L         
17   9   L         
18   18   W         
19   30   L         
20   20   W         
21   30   L         
22   7   L         
23   14   L         
24   12   W         
25   13   W         
26   22   L         
27   12   W         
28   29   W         
29   21   W         
30   35   L         
31   20   W         
32   23   L         
33   19   L         
34   34   L         
35   2   W         
36   16   L         
37   7   L         
38   16   L         
39   21   W         
40   25   W         
41   19   L   33      
42   4   W   2      
43   33   W   18      
44   20   W   12      
45   32   L   13      
46   24   L   29      
47   3   L   25      
48   14   L   4      
49   0   L   26      
50   29   W   15      
51   13   W   21      
52   7   L   20      
53               
54             spins 40*12= 480   
55             wins  17*36= 612
56               
57   have to look over the other replies   that are all rng            
58               
59               
60               
               
61               
62               
63               

[nottophammer]

Jackpot Joy  on ITV  today early hours
Automated wheel

1   35   1   
2   3   2   
3   8   3   
4   12   4   
5   25   5   
6   7   6   
7   1   7   
8   11   8   
9   23   9   
10   8      
11   0   10   
12   35      
13   8      
14   33   11   
15   18   12   
16   36   L   
17   7   W     +12
18   19   1   
19   8   2   
20   28   3   
21   23   4   
22   17   5   
23   7   6   
24   7      
25   12   7   
26   13   8   
27   31   9   
28   9   10   
29   14   11   
30   12      
31   14      
32   19      
33   29   12   
34   24   L   
35   12   W      +12
36   1   1   
37   1      
38   27   2   
39   35   3   
40   9   4   
41   10   5   
42   10      
43   35      
44   36   6   
45   19   7   
46   33   8   
47   35      
48   24   9   
49   17   10   
50   36      
51   6   11   
52   31   12   
53   32   L   
54   4   L   
55   34   L   
56   17   W      +24
57   34      
58   32      
59   27      
60   18      

[NextYear]

Are you that much lucky?
No, you are on a right track!

[nottophammer]

Just look at the one hits (1X's) in Gut, look when 25 non hit shows theres the 12 unique

[RouletteGhost]

Notto. Twocat played similar. But waited for only 5 uniques

Good results

If you don't have something big here then I'll be a monkeys uncle. I don't want to be a monkeys uncle

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9835.0

[celescliff]

Ok, a 142 spin test. This test was JUST to see how far I could go playing with the same numbers.

What you don't see here is that after spin 92 I had 9 losses, eating 732 units from the bankroll. I deleted those and start a new one with the number that came and the next 12 numbers survivied for 44 spins. I will do some more testing to see if you could bet the same numbers and have 2-5 wins.

1   9   1      
2   13   2      
3   24   3      
4   35   4      
5   28   5      
6   32   6      
7   26   7      
8   17   8      
9   1   9      
10   7   10      
11   30   11      
12   26         
13   31   12      Bet 1 7 9 13 17 24 26 28 30 31 32 35
14   22      L   
15   24      W   12
16   16      L   
17   8      L   
18   19      L   
19   18      L   
20   20      L   
21   25      L   
22   10      L   
23   31      W   24
24   24      W   24
25   24      W   24
26   15      L   
27   3      L   
28   3      L   
29   21      L   
30   19      L   
31   30      W   12
32   28      W   24
33   13      W   24
34   1      W   24
35   33      L   
36   6      L   
37   32      W   24
38   6      L   
39   32      W   12
40   14      L   
41   2      L   
42   10      L   
43   31      W   24
44   14      L   
45   34      L   
46   16      L   
47   22      L   
48   23      L   
49   18      L   
50   4      L   
51   36      L   
52   26      W   24
53   18      L   
54   6      L   
55   24      W   24
56   7      W   24
57   18      L   
58   14      L   
59   6      L   
60   9      W   24
61   22      L   
62   11      L   
63   14      L   
64   22      L   
65   32      W   12
66   26      W   24
67   5      L   
68   13      W   12
69   34      L   
70   36      L   
71   35      W   24
72   13      W   24
73   31      W   24
74   5      L   
75   25      L   
76   10      L   
77   25      L   
78   24      W   12
79   32      W   24
80   26      W   24
81   1      W   24
82   15      L   
83   23      L   
84   24      W   24
85   4      L   
86   14      L   
87   17      W   24
88   6      L   
89   13      W   12
90   20      L   
91   7      W   12
92            +600
93   23   1      
94   3   2      
95   23         
96   10   3      
97   8   4      
98   4   5      
99   12   6      
100   29   7      
101   36   8      
102   14   9      
103   8         
104   6   10      
105   10         
106   36         
107   11   11      
108   10         
109   20   12      Bet 3 4 6 8 10 11 12 14 20 23 29 36
110   36      W   24
111   14      W   24
112   27      L   
113   22      L   
114   30      L   
115   23      W   24
116   25      L   
117   10      W   12
118   8      W   24
119   25      L   
120   4      W   12
121   21      L   
122   32      L   
123   2      L   
124   4      W   24
125   26      L   
126   15      L   
127   35      L   
128   33      L   
129   4      W   12
130   29      W   24
131   2      L   
132   20      W   12
133   12      W   24
134   13      L   
135   19      L   
136   25      L   
137   34      L   
138   24      L   
139   22      L   
140   9      L   
141   15      L   
142   5      L   

[nottophammer]

Personally i would collect 12 new unique after the win. You could collect the next unique straight after the 12 where you are betting,like i did today.