1st 12#'s in X spins

[nottophammer]

Just back from Ladbrokes
14-2
11-1
36-3
11-1
11-1
31-3
05-1
09-1
21-2
35-3  thes last 10 on screen, so start the count for 12 #'s
32-3  1
15-2  2   Now iwatched the next 2 spins for denzie
11-1  3
34-3  4    bet here 1-3
34-3  R    win the unit.   Now watch
11-1  R
10-1  5     so 1-1 why guess nb
22-2  6
09-1  7
04-1  8   again why guess  nb
31-3  9
17-2  10
16-2  11  again why guess  nb  Gut is 26-9-2-2  we could get another 7/8 unique, we could get the 12th #which would be
30-3  12  one of the 7/8.  30 is the 12th so bet, so could get another 6/7 unique, lets hope not. Cut the story short, WINKEL
35-3  L     is spot on
14-2  L
20-2  L
20-2  L  now when that 20 came 3rd loss think perhaps one of the unique not using could hit and it does
33-3  L  Now i bet the rng sceptics would be saying the rng is cheating
  0-0  L
11-1  Win  Staked .20p*12    1,1,2,3,4,10,20

If we look at the 10 on screen 14,11,36,11,11,31,5,9,21,35  8 unique, of that 8 unique 2 repeat in the 1st 10 that we play.
In the next 10spins, from our 1st 10 of play we have 8 unique and none repeat.

So how is this rng cheating, i won, if it was cheating surely i should not have won. Dont Winkels LOTT in Gut work,so wheres the cheat

[thelaw]

Just back from Ladbrokes
14-2
11-1
36-3
11-1
11-1
31-3
05-1
09-1
21-2
35-3  thes last 10 on screen, so start the count for 12 #'s
32-3  1
15-2  2   Now iwatched the next 2 spins for denzie
11-1  3
34-3  4    bet here 1-3
34-3  R    win the unit.   Now watch
11-1  R
10-1  5     so 1-1 why guess nb
22-2  6
09-1  7
04-1  8   again why guess  nb
31-3  9
17-2  10
16-2  11  again why guess  nb  Gut is 26-9-2-2  we could get another 7/8 unique, we could get the 12th #which would be
30-3  12  one of the 7/8.  30 is the 12th so bet, so could get another 6/7 unique, lets hope not. Cut the story short, WINKEL
35-3  L     is spot on
14-2  L
20-2  L
20-2  L  now when that 20 came 3rd loss think perhaps one of the unique not using could hit and it does
33-3  L  Now i bet the rng sceptics would be saying the rng is cheating
  0-0  L
11-1  Win  Staked .20p*12    1,1,2,3,4,10,20

If we look at the 10 on screen 14,11,36,11,11,31,5,9,21,35  8 unique, of that 8 unique 2 repeat in the 1st 10 that we play.
In the next 10spins, from our 1st 10 of play we have 8 unique and none repeat.

So how is this rng cheating, i won, if it was cheating surely i should not have won. Dont Winkels LOTT in Gut work,so wheres the cheat

The ultimate proof against RNG cheating would be increasing your bankroll to an amount that would make an online casino uncomfortable.

So if you started with $500 and turned it into $50,000, I would say that you've pretty much destroyed the theory that RNG is rigged.

Keep up the good work! 

[nottophammer]

Hi Law
I'm betting in the licensed bookmakers, on FOBT's with tight stakes.
As you can see must start with only .20p units,max bet £100.00


If we look at the 10 on screen 14,11,36,11,11,31,5,9,21,35  8 unique, of that 8 unique 2 repeat in the 1st 10 that we play.
In the next 10spins, from our 1st 10 of play we have 8 unique and none repeat.

The above goes in line with Gut, so how is the rng cheating

[thelaw]

Hi Law
I'm betting in the licensed bookmakers, on FOBT's with tight stakes.
As you can see must start with only .20p units,max bet £100.00


If we look at the 10 on screen 14,11,36,11,11,31,5,9,21,35  8 unique, of that 8 unique 2 repeat in the 1st 10 that we play.
In the next 10spins, from our 1st 10 of play we have 8 unique and none repeat.

The above goes in line with Gut, so how is the rng cheating

Not saying it's cheating, but if you want a definitive answer to the age-old "cheating RNG" question, then significant wins are the way to go!

Any minor scenario can be seen as an anomaly with RNG; but winning 100x your bankroll.............that would go a long way toward shutting down those that criticize RNG

[RouletteGhost]

such a fine line.

such a gray area.

cheating? I don't think they "cheat"

my local airball machines are said to determine a number before the ball is released, using different air bursts it guides the ball.

BUT, that gets tricky, you can STILL place bets after the ball has spun for a few seconds.

when I play the grass roots stuff on airball, I don't place the chips on the dozens until the balls released.

what I do know is people play the airball machines with $25 chips and make thousands of dollars, I've seen it

Like slot machines the video roulettes and the airball roulettes are regulated as far as how much they have to pay out, though. That raises the question, is it truly roulette? No, not like a live dealer roulette.

I don't know and I don't think we will ever know exactly how they work

Few weeks ago I played grass roots at resorts world, they had replaced 80% of the airball machines, they had an area sectioned off with airball machines dismantled with signs that said inspections completed or something like that.

When someone loses they like to say it cheated

BUT, I will tell you one thing, online RNG I will never play again, cause that CAN cheat. When people say they have cracked RNG online, I laugh outloud....nimwits they are. You can never crack RNG online. If that were the case the software guys that make this stuff would be draining the casinos.

With the airball though I think it is a gray area. It is said to pre determine where the ball is going, yet it lets you place bets after it is released. Also, I don't know because I have tried the tactic of betting where everyone else is not betting. They show players bets on a big screen. It did not work.

[Turner]

my local airball machines are said to determine a number before the ball is released, using different air bursts it guides the ball.

Im no airball expert, but Flatino (RIP) hammered them day and night and swore blind that they were fixed, mentioned hard drives running codes.

[RouletteGhost]

Turner. I think you may be right.

But i never had an issue with them

I see people win thousands

I swear by betting after the balls released

After all, i do see the airball bounce around the diamonds. So i dont think it can be 100%

[RouletteGhost]

What i am tying to say is does airball manipulation stop at the diamond. Once it hits diamond its erratic

Perhaps airball just chooses a section

Also the required payout matches the house edge

[Tamino]

RG

Take  the time  and contact XANDER via PM at the VLS selection forum . He is an expert  on wheels and as far as I know  even on the air ball variety. Tell him ND recommended him.Sharp  B & M casino   roulette player  and  VB specialist.

[RouletteGhost]

RG

Take  the time  and contact XANDER via PM at the VLS selection forum . He is an expert  on wheels and as far as I know  even on the air ball variety. Tell him ND recommended him.Sharp  B & M casino   roulette player  and  VB specialist.

I know of him. He has played at my local casino

Id like to meet up with him next time

Thanks

[MrJ]

Turner. I think you may be right.

But i never had an issue with them

I see people win thousands

I swear by betting after the balls released

After all, i do see the airball bounce around the diamonds. So i dont think it can be 100%

I guess nobody reads my posts. I reported my findings sometime back.

I cant quote it 100% perfect but it went something like this...... I went to my casino around 6am, I wanted as few as possible on the machine. PERFECT, I was the only person playing.

I used only $25 bets. Every spin, I bet the 26 30 7 20 17 5 34 15 24 36  (00 wheel), $250 per spin.

I did this for 100 spins. Of course I did not pump 25K into a machine, I used whatever wins I got, back into my BR but was WILLING to lose a lot (which happened) in order to do my experiment.

Notice how my numbers are all on one side. its nice and even, red/black etc.

Anyways, you would not believe the number of times the ball landed no where near my section !!

I'm glad nobody else played because I wanted no big bets on my opposite side, the experiment worked out real nice (for the casino, lol). I only had a few hits and lost.....well.....quite a bit but it was worth it.

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

I guess nobody reads my posts. I reported my findings sometime back.

I cant quote it 100% perfect but it went something like this...... I went to my casino around 6am, I wanted as few as possible on the machine. PERFECT, I was the only person playing.

I used only $25 bets. Every spin, I bet the 26 30 7 20 17 5 34 15 24 36  (00 wheel), $250 per spin.

I did this for 100 spins. Of course I did not pump 25K into a machine, I used whatever wins I got, back into my BR but was WILLING to lose a lot (which happened) in order to do my experiment.

Notice how my numbers are all on one side. its nice and even, red/black etc.

Anyways, you would not believe the number of times the ball landed no where near my section !!

I'm glad nobody else played because I wanted no big bets on my opposite side, the experiment worked out real nice (for the casino, lol). I only had a few hits and lost.....well.....quite a bit but it was worth it.

Ken

No dount airball manipulates the ball

But to what extent?

When i see it hit the diamond its erratic.

I think playing at a full table is different then lonesome?

[MrJ]

"I think playing at a full table is different then lonesome?" >>

10000000% correct. I may do the same experiment but at 8pm, lots of players (if I can get a seat).

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

"I think playing at a full table is different then lonesome?" >>

10000000% correct. I may do the same experiment but at 8pm, lots of players (if I can get a seat).

Ken

The plus of my casino is the machines are always packed.

Sometimes have to wait for a seat

These guys are throwing 25 dollar chips on numbers while im putting 10 bucks on double dozens

[Tamino]

Just take the time and  compare  the bounce of the  ball at an air ball machine  and a live dealer dropping the  ball at a roulette wheel.

It shall be an  interesting lesson.Well  worth it.


ND.