Hit and Run

[ignatus]

Well now, to my logic this should work (most of the time),.....at least for hit and run. This is 3 doublestreets bet.

TRIGGER- Bet against the last 3 doublestreets hit with progression 1-2-4-8-16 STOP

Progression idea. (if one level is lost go to the next)

Level 1: 1-2-4-8-16
Level 2: 2-4-8-16-32
Level 3: 4-8-16-32-64

...and so on.

[NextYear]

Well now, to my logic this should work (most of the time)

I also think that this should not be dangerous, even thou.... you know... with that progression (with any progression)...

Thanks for another idea.

[RouletteGhost]

Hit and run it works. Continuous it does not

With discipline its a nice winner

[Tamino]

My guess is it was never played at a $ 5  or $ 10 Min table.

[ignatus]

My guess is it was never played at a $ 5  or $ 10 Min table.

Test 2. Played with 5u bets, i reached the highest step in progression two times  .. so it's like playing with fire, it can bust at any time,..

[ignatus]

Test 3. Still no loss..... reached step 4 (1-2-4-8) two times

played with 5u bets

[Tamino]

According to your own  chart it is a losing system. Why publish losing  systems. Just for the sake of publishing ?



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[ignatus]

According to your own  chart it is a losing system. Why publish losing  systems. Just for the sake of publishing ?



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not more losing than any other system,... ofcourse matingale is very risky to play, but for small wingoals it could work, in the long run, hit and run

[ignatus]

............then take the time to create  a short term  winning system. You  ain`t got  the experience.  I am a winner but not with crap being spewed  out on message boards.




martingale is for losers never for winners.

you're right, martingale is not a good idea. , try Kattila's progression for a 50/50 bet then, +1u at loss, and keep the bet in the progressionline for the next trigger, until recovered, then reset to 1u.

But the original idea was good, but it doesn't hold for long, sooner or later a extreme bad situation comes, then no progression can save you

tamino, i was just experimenting with this one, and yes, it failed, i should've know better...i don't recommend this system for real play, since it's a losing system...that's why i put it in notepad. just an idea that didn't work. sry

(Test 4, played with Kattila's progression)

[Tamino]

Ignatius ,

In  all fairness to you I checked out your system MY WAY

Dublin bet $ 5 Min flat betting

1. session  WWWWWWL   Win goal achieved net win $ 75

2. session -L-L    Two losses in a row  net loss           (   $ 30 )

3.session  LWWWWWL Win goal achieved betting until first loss  Net win $ 45


Having won 2 out of 3 sessions  net $ 90.


Play at your own risk.

[ignatus]

Ignatius ,

In  all fairness to you I checked out your system MY WAY

Dublin bet $ 5 Min flat betting

1. session  WWWWWWL   Win goal achieved net win $ 75

2. session -L-L    Two losses in a row  net loss           (   $ 30 )

3.session  LWWWWWL Win goal achieved betting until first loss  Net win $ 45


Having won 2 out of 3 sessions  net $ 90.


Play at your own risk.

Thanks for testing maybe i should try flatbet too... i should not give up on this one, perhaps? i don't know, i got 11-12 losses in a row that is the general extreme event that could happen playing with 18 numbers....but you can't play roulette at all if you're thinking about these extreme events...it's the risk you have to take, i guess? i've tried to find better betselections, and it's right as Steve says, the only way to win is to increase the hitrate with better betselections...

[Tamino]

I posted getting of the table after 2 losses kn a row.  Screw the casino. Its your bankroll. Only certified Idiots continue the march with  a martingale.

[ignatus]

I posted getting of the table after 2 losses kn a row.  Screw the casino. Its your bankroll. Only certified Idiots continue the march with  a martingale.

Yes, you're right. FLATBET worked from my first attempt! it's not great profits, but still i reached my wingoal 100u playing with 5u bets,

This is how i played; Stoploss after 2 losses in a row (and wait for a virtual win before betting again).

[Tamino]

to win  $ 500 ( 100 units) per session you must bring $ 5,000 . Which means  in order to handle  3  sessions you must   bting bankroll o
o the  casino.$ 15,000.( The higher the bankroll  the less  should be the expected win goal percentege. )


You are under capitalized if you bring  less.

For my 3 sessions above I required $ 600. or $ 200 per session.. 






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[thelaw]

Yes, you're right. FLATBET worked from my first attempt! it's not great profits, but still i reached my wingoal 100u playing with 5u bets,

This is how i played; Stoploss after 2 losses in a row (and wait for a virtual win before betting again).

Ignatus,

As always, great work.....much appreciated!!!

I think it would be interesting to see how this tweak would look long-term with solid MM.

The reason I mention this is that nearly all of your graphs have the same pattern: the method works.........until it doesn't.

This method with flat bet has past the first test..........it won eventually. Now the question is: can you repeat this over a number of games with good MM.

Although we see many people test different bet-selections, we rarely see members apply proper MM to a decent method. Remember, the goal is to win............how we get there.............much less important.