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KTF

Started by nottophammer, Jan 30, 11:56 AM 2016

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tuddilue

Quote from: denzie on Jun 16, 12:21 AM 2016
Myself I can't get ahead. Played real as here and both lost. Now trying the new tweak though. So did wtf lost horrible.

No disrespect to anyone,  just telling my results.
With the new tweak you mean reset or?

Yes wtf you can loose horrible do you want to share the numbers?

Sad to hear that you lost, but we always do that from time to time..

- Tuddilue

nottophammer

Dont take this out of context ( think thats the word) This is why  i came to KTF.
Below is from GUT Blog
Pls print different trots and compare: where are which hits more possible:
In first 13 there are mostly "new" numbers hit what KTF wants
In the second 12 there are new and once hit Aren't we shown its possible for 7/8,0x'sThese 7/8,0x's are where the trot makes or breaks KTF
In the 3rd 12 there all (0s, 1s, 2s) hitting usually KTF has won

Only 5 loses in 170 games

So this is why like in GUT its your decision when to stop?
Below todays jackpot247.com game  KTF +57  Like CelticKnits would see at spin 20, 8,+3 is it WTF time?
Spin No. Spin Repeat? Non-hit count Progression Result Bank
1 17 37
2 14 36
3 9 35
4 29 34
5 2 33
6 14 R 32
7 18 32
8 26 31
9 27 30
10 26 R 29
11 6 29 1 7 7
12 8 28 1 8 15
13 15 27 1 9 24
14 5 26 1 10 34
15 23 25 1 11 45
16 19 24 1 12 57
17 21 23 1 13 70
18 29 R 22 1 -22 48
19 17 R 22 2 -44 4
20 10 22 3 42 46
21 6 R 21 2 -42 4
22 13 21 3 45 49
23 25 20 2 32 81
24 34 19 1 17 98
25 24 18 1 18 116
26 2 R 17 1 -17 99
27 26 R 17 2 -34 65
28 1 17 3 57 122
29 12 16 2 40 162
30 2 R 15 1 -15 147
31 30 15 2 42 189
32 21 R 14 1 -14 175
33 23 R 14 2 -28 147
34 21 R 14 3 -42 105
35 8 R 14 4 -56 49
36 12 R 14 5 -70 -21
37 32 14 6 132 111
38 20 13 5 115 226
39 13 R 12 4 -48 178
40 19 R 12 5 -60 118
41 22 12 6 144 262
42 19 R 11 5 -55 207
43 23 R 11 6 -66 141
44 8 R 11 7 -77 64
45 17 R 11 8 -88 -24
46 19 R 11 9 -99 -123
47 29 R 11 10 -110 -233
48 18 R 11 11 -121 -354
49 13 R 11 12 -132 -486
50 13 R 11 13 -143 -629
51 35 11 14 350 -279
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60
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14735.30

Replies 41,43,and definetly 44

The more info you understand on 37, 0x's the better
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

tuddilue

Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 16, 06:39 AM 2016
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14735.30

Replies 41,43,and definetly 44

The more info you understand on 37, 0x's the better
Interesting nottophammer!

But reply 44 is also saying that in average you will hit an repeat after 6,7,8 0x numbers.
For me it depends on what happens in the trott. If it is a fast trott then 0x is preferred to bet at but is it a slow or normal I almost always play for 1x.

I think the GUT is getting closer to what is happening. 0x can be a gamble to game at because you need to bet on it early in the 37, as you also has said.
With 1x it easier to make a decision later in the trott if you are going to bet on it or not.

To combine them I think is the way to go forward...

-Tuddilue

denzie

Sunday we will see a better way to catch those 0s. And it doesn't require 800u br.

Btw Notto the tweak so far keeps me ahead.
testing testing testing testing testing  :thumbsup:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

tuddilue

Quote from: denzie on Jun 16, 07:41 AM 2016
Sunday we will see a better way to catch those 0s. And it doesn't require 800u br.

Btw Notto the tweak so far keeps me ahead.
testing testing testing testing testing  :thumbsup:
Catching the 0x that doesn't require 800u sounds good, looking forward it.

I have asked about the tweak before, is it the reset or?

- Tuddilue

Celticknits

Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 16, 05:48 AM 2016
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Below todays jackpot247.com game  KTF +57  Like CelticKnits would see at spin 20, 8,+3 is it WTF time?
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I would have started betting WTF Single Repeats at spin 16 based on GUT tracking and averages.

I posted a full payout sheet and explanations in the WTF thread.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

nottophammer

Okay flat bet, you know the value of a win on each non-hit, you know on average in spins 11-40 you get 15 non-hit.
So KTF can win flat bet, but the repeats that come early could potentially make it lose.
Today’s jackpot wins flat bet.
29-36
28-36
27-36
26-36
25-36
24-36
23-36,  +70
22- 0
22- 0
22-36
21- 0
21-36
20-36
19-36
18-36
17- 0
17- 0
17-36
16-36
15- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14-36
out 528  in 576 = +48
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

tuddilue

Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 16, 03:18 PM 2016
Okay flat bet, you know the value of a win on each non-hit, you know on average in spins 11-40 you get 15 non-hit.
So KTF can win flat bet, but the repeats that come early could potentially make it lose.
Today’s jackpot wins flat bet.
29-36
28-36
27-36
26-36
25-36
24-36
23-36,  +70
22- 0
22- 0
22-36
21- 0
21-36
20-36
19-36
18-36
17- 0
17- 0
17-36
16-36
15- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14-36
out 528  in 576 = +48
Yes impressive!
What do you mean with the 36 number?
- Tuddilue

nottophammer

Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 16, 03:18 PM 2016
Okay flat bet, you know the value of a win on each non-hit, you know on average in spins 11-40 you get 15 non-hit.
So KTF can win flat bet, but the repeats that come early could potentially make it lose.
Today’s jackpot wins flat bet.
29-36
28-36
27-36
26-36
25-36
24-36
23-36,  +70
22- 0
22- 0
22-36
21- 0
21-36
20-36
19-36
18-36
17- 0
17- 0
17-36
16-36
15- 0      i missed a win here
15-36
14- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14- 0
14-36
out 528  in 576 = +48


The 36 is the full return 35+1, 16*36=576, in fact there was 17 wins today i was working on just 16 wins, i did not look at spins 1-10, 8/10 and we end up with 25 non-hit in the 30 spins, i've put the extra 15 - 36 in. Been a long day through the footie win, England
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Now the Falkor part,

Could he work out a table for each spin, 11-40. When say spins 11-14 win and 15 loses, we/you need to know how the rest of the spins could damage a win from the 15 non-hits, if say spins 16,17 win, then 18 loses and 19 loses, spin 20 wins. Would flat betting still from spin 21 with 8 potential wins still to come make a profit. It would be like an A-Z of spins 11-40,showing all potential out comes, would that be possible?
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

See the beer head is not working reply 1360 should been reply to 1358
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Unlike Gut where we watch for crossings, here we just need to know how the repeats during the 30 spins, 11-40, muck up the chance to win whilst flat betting,
Below from Luck of the Irish

This is a test I did in November.  I tested over 1 million single zero RNG spins and got this:

2    3210
3    6251
4    9017
5    10906
6    12398
7    12852
8    12454
9    11478
10    10007
11    8619
12    6845
13    5243
14    3857
15    2730
16    1816
17    1128
18    687
19    355
20    246
21    96
22    61
23    29
24    16
25    5
26    3
27    0
28    0
29    0
30    0
31    0
32    0
33    0
34    0
35    0
36    0

The most unique numbers in a row was 25 (The 26 means it hit on the 26th spin, so 25 unique numbers in a row) and this happened only 3 times.

So if the above 25 unique came and we are flat betting from spin 11 we/you would win all 15 nonhits.
This is why we need to know every multiple W/L scenario for spins 11-40, How many ways that could happen, i dare not guess
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

tuddilue

Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 16, 03:44 PM 2016
The 36 is the full return 35+1, 16*36=576, in fact there was 17 wins today i was working on just 16 wins, i did not look at spins 1-10, 8/10 and we end up with 25 non-hit in the 30 spins, i've put the extra 15 - 36 in. Been a long day through the footie win, England
Ok Thanks,  I understand now!
Yes congratulations to the win!
- Tuddilue

nottophammer

Been playing on the multi player, can get the chips on,but if prog goes up have to think how to use chip values.
From whats been spinning this morning playing like RNG, at 40th to many games have been -3, on the airball its the other way round.
13th spin 24-13-0, 3 games out of 4, something about virgins?
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

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