KTF

[nottophammer]

started on the backfoot today but you KTF +111

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Spin No. Spin Repeat? Non-hit count Progression Result Bank
1 23 37
2 22 36
3 27 35
4 11 34
5 33 33
6 26 32
7 26 R 31
8 1 31
9 26 R 30
10 36 30
11 33 R 29 1 -29 -29
12 8 29 2 14 -15
13 27 R 28 1 -28 -43
14 25 28 2 16 -27
15 14 27 1 9 -18
16 12 26 1 10 -8
17 12 R 25 1 -25 -33
18 26 R 25 2 -50 -83
19 16 25 3 33 -50
20 24 24 2 24 -26
21 16 R 23 1 -23 -49
22 3 23 2 26 -23
23 25 R 22 1 -22 -45
24 30 22 2 28 -17
25 21 21 1 15 -2
26 27 R 20 1 -20 -22
27 14 R 20 2 -40 -62
28 8 R 20 3 -60 -122
29 11 R 20 4 -80 -202
30 23 R 20 5 -100 -302
31 13 20 6 96 -206
32 6 19 5 85 -121
33 5 18 4 72 -49
34 36 R 17 3 -51 -100
35 18 17 4 76 -24
36 19 16 3 60 36
37 21 R 15 2 -30 6
38 8 R 15 3 -45 -39
39 29 15 4 84 45
40 9 14 3 66 111
41 33 R 13 2 -26 85
42 18 R 13 3 -39 46
43 0 13 4 92 138
44 25 R 12 3 -36 102
45 29 R 12 4 -48 54
46 19 R 12 5 -60 -6
47 2 12 6 144 138
48 19 R 11 5 -55 83
49 27 R 11 6 -66 17
50 21 R 11 7 -77 -60
51 20 11 8 200 140
52 11 R 10 7 -70 70
53 13 R 10 8 -80 -10
54 0 R 10 9 -90 -100
55 1 R 10 10 -100 -200
56 16 R 10 11 -110 -310
57 28 10 12 312 2
58 32 9 11 297 299
59 15 8 10 280 579
60 6 R 7 9 -63 516


[nottophammer]

And as 11r is my max I've seen till today....I would know around 10r to go for the 0x

Denzie, i know this KTF, the ? is what non-hit was where it waited for 11 spins to hit. The non-hit was the 20th?

Each 0x has its own max to hit, going for the 11th,0x, staking 27 units has to date on jackpot 247 a max of 4 spins.
So if the 11r is for the 20th 0x, you'll have to consider that it averages to hit with in 3 spins,
Now if the 20th 0x has missed for 3 spins and your own max to hit is 11 spins, you could expect to see another 8 spins, this is where you'd be leaving GUT as there is 18 non-hit to bet 2 times only,
How do you handle the other potentially 9 spins, it could always go futher? if you could bet it for 5 spins and you said i'd give it 1 more spin so max of 12, you take your 5 spins away, would mean you'd have to wait for 7 spins

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1 spin 79
2 45
3 18
4 18
     4
     5
     4
     0
     0
     1

so the above is for the 20th non-hit and has taken a max to hit 10 spins once in 174 games, its hit on the 7th spin 4 times, if you'd bet for 5 spins max you'd have lost 10 times.

Its like a game of chess, knowledge how 0x's can behave is a help,

[nottophammer]

Now we've heard old wind bag General in Mumbo Jumbo say LOTT is waist of time, but as mumbo is going to show? the LOTT is always there, like on todays #'s, spin 38, theres 25, non-hits come.
If you follow Winkel and the trot, here we'd be thinking is it  going to be a repeating game, so watch the trot, but this is KTF, where you keep faith with just betting non-hits.

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Spin No. Spin Repeat? Non-hit count Progression Result Bank
1 22 37
2 11 36
3 0 35
4 4 34
5 24 33
6 33 32
7 36 31
8 0 R 30
9 29 30
10 22 R 29
11 15 29 1 7 7
12 10 28 1 8 15
13 15 R 27 1 -27 -12
14 10 R 27 2 -54 -66
15 24 R 27 3 -81 -147
16 22 R 27 4 -108 -255
17 3 27 5 45 -210
18 25 26 4 40 -170
19 2 25 3 33 -137
20 23 24 2 24 -113
21 10 R 23 1 -23 -136
22 29 R 23 2 -46 -182
23 26 23 3 39 -143
24 21 22 2 28 -115
25 30 21 1 15 -100
26 25 R 20 1 -20 -120
27 27 20 2 32 -88
28 17 19 1 17 -71
29 21 R 18 1 -18 -89
30 20 18 2 36 -53
31 9 17 1 19 -34
32 32 16 1 20 -14
33 33 R 15 1 -15 -29
34 10 R 15 2 -30 -59
35 14 15 3 63 4
36 7 14 2 44 48
37 5 13 1 23 71
38 32 R 12 1 -12 59
39 34 12 2 48 107
40 4 R 11 1 -11 96
41 11 R 11 2 -22 74
42 24 R 11 3 -33 41
43 19 11 4 100 141
44 12 10 3 78 219
45 9 R 9 2 -18 201
46 13 9 3 81 282
47 25 R 8 2 -16 266
48 35 8 3 84 350
49 18 7 2 58 408
50 13 R 6 1 -6 402
51 13 R 6 2 -12 390
52 14 R 6 3 -18 372
53 8 6 4 120 492
54 6 5 3 93 585
55 21 R 4 2 -8 577
56 0 R 4 3 -12 565
57 2 R 4 4 -16 549
58 33 R 4 5 -20 529
59 2 R 4 6 -24 505
60 8 R 4 7 -28 477


[NextYear]

Thanks Notto, the Forum is on your shoulders lately! 

[tuddilue]

This ktf tweak you and denzie is talking about. Can you give an example of what it is?
Thanks in advance..
- Tuddilue

[tomi20]

Hi ,

i start testing KTF with rules described on the first page of topic..

Is ok to play on this page link:://:.roulettephysics.com/free-roulette-simulator/ , because  i dont have acc on real casino ?

Or link:://:.liveroulette.ie/ when is airball active?

Do you still use rules described on the first page or you  changed method during 90+ pages?

Big thanks to author for sharing method...

[nottophammer]

Yes nothing wrong with taking 20-30, like Winkel said in GUT you make the decision.
All i was saying after you play for sometime you will probably start to think about,what if or how about, then its no longer KTF.
Glad your winning with it.
Was i right thinking its simple to play, i hope so.

But i must confess i'm more a trot/count watcher than a KTF'er, I disregard all the math quoted to me as i just watch those 0X's and make a decision,from past game play and trot average, which i record for analysis.

Now i wonder how other roulette players have any understanding for the game, when i go to the B+M no buggers recording anything, in the uk bookies the same, so my conclussion is they must all be plasterering chips anyway anyhow anyway they choose

The line in red holds up, yesterday at Aspers all plasterers, could not see 1 person keeping note of the spins

[nottophammer]

Do you still use rules described on the first page or you  changed method during 90+ pages?

The only decision is what profit you want  to take.
I only post now on games where KTF has to win 50/+50 for a very respected member called Priyanka, during the posts it was suggested to lower the win target, but he/she said is it not to win 50/+50, so thats what i play it for now using numbers from Jackpot 247.com, airball, its still +7'000 after 176 games.

[tuddilue]

This ktf tweak you and denzie is talking about. Can you give an example of what it is?
Thanks in advance..
- Tuddilue

Ok so you play mainly ktf as in the beginning. But this tweak does it exists or?
- Tuddilue

[nottophammer]

I'll post todays sheet.
Its just an option to know of, would help on todays. But then if we Keep The Faith (KTF) it wins.

[nottophammer]

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jackpot247 23.06.16
1 8
2 14
3 29
4 20
5 25
6 16
7 14
8 22
9 36
10 19
11 12
12 19
13 18
14 21
15 30
16 20
17 25
18 14
19 25
20 26
21 4
22 28
23 5
24 0
25 11
26 34
27 32
28 9
29 16
30 23
31 35
32 30
33 36
34 2
35 36
36 4
37 18
38 28
39 32
40 6
41 6
42 34
43 22
44 33
45 0
46 19
47 6
48 9
49 22
50 23
51 4
52 15
53 34
54 11
55 6
56 23
57 15
58 23
59 22
60 5

61 28
62 15
63 15


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Spin No. Spin Repeat? Non-hit count Progression Result Bank
1 8 37
2 14 36
3 29 35
4 20 34
5 25 33
6 16 32
7 14 R 31
8 22 31
9 36 30
10 19 29
11 12 28 1 8 8
12 19 R 27 1 -27 -19
13 18 27 2 18 -1
14 21 26 1 10 9
15 30 25 1 11 20
16 20 R 24 1 -24 -4
17 25 R 24 2 -48 -52
18 14 R 24 3 -72 -124
19 25 R 24 4 -96 -220
20 26 24 5 60 -160
21 4 23 4 52 -108
22 28 22 3 42 -66
23 5 21 2 30 -36
24 0 20 1 16 -20
25 11 19 1 17 -3
26 34 18 1 18 15
27 32 17 1 19 34
28 9 16 1 20 54
29 16 R 15 1 -15 39
30 23 15 2 42 81
31 35 14 1 22 103
32 30 R 13 1 -13 90
33 36 R 13 2 -26 64
34 2 13 3 69 133
35 36 R 12 2 -24 109
36 4 R 12 3 -36 73
37 18 R 12 4 -48 25
38 28 R 12 5 -60 -35
39 32 R 12 6 -72 -107
40 6 12 7 168 61
41 6 R 11 6 -66 -5
42 34 R 11 7 -77 -82
43 22 R 11 8 -88 -170
44 33 11 9 225 55
45 0 R 10 8 -80 -25
46 19 R 10 9 -90 -115
47 6 R 10 10 -100 -215
48 9 R 10 11 -110 -325
49 22 R 10 12 -120 -445
50 23 R 10 13 -130 -575
51 4 R 10 14 -140 -715
52 15 10 15 390 -325
53 34 R 9 14 -126 -451
54 11 R 9 15 -135 -586
55 6 R 9 16 -144 -730
56 23 R 9 17 -153 -883
57 15 R 9 18 -162 -1045
58 23 R 9 19 -171 -1216
59 22 R 9 20 -180 -1396
60 5 R 9 21 -189 -1585


[nottophammer]

No numbers for tomorrow as the leave win is on thru the night.  Vote out
Oh yes take a pen, like professor Cox who's just said MI5 might change your vote, said pencil they could rub out your vote of leave, got watch dirty Daves lot 

[Lucky7Red]

Is it possible to play this in real casino, I mean will this really can outperform roulette in long run?

[tomi20]

I go through all pages, it takes few hours...

You talk always about reading trots, countback , avg file but all that dont make influence if you play KTF with same rules?
It only tells you when is best time to stop betting and take wins ?

Correct me if i'm wrong...
Did you play only KTF or you play other systems based on reading trots, countback?

[nottophammer]

Okay Lucky7Red, tomi20

Just got back from Grosvenor Luton made 298 units.
Now i have not checked to see if this wins by just betting the non-hit. All i did was watch the trot,