KTF

[RouletteGhost]

To play ktf or to play for repeats. That is the question

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[nottophammer]

Or the waiting game

[nottophammer]

The waiting game
Think about it, whilst your hawking, what is mr average doing and i don't mean JOE.

Your double street, whats the avg for a single dozen to repeat, lets say its 6 so whilst hawking you see at one of the tables dozen 2 has hit for 6, would you now feel you could bet the 2nd dozen as its past its avg to come in, what you'd need to know is whats its max to come in, so would waiting for its avg in-still the confidence to bet it

[RouletteGhost]

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[nottophammer]

would be with that lady at the wheel

[nottophammer]

Signing out soccer

[spartanrules]

Just checking in on this method.
Been playing for a few days now. Last session this evening made 195 units for around 1 hour an 30 mins play.
What I tend to do is try not to go into to many spins. Get your 10 unique and literally just spin another 4 or 6.
That's it. Reset and play again.

[nottophammer]

Exactly
Remember that 50/60 is only an example of if you had to keep on playing,KTF
Watch that trot,like Azim said practice,practice. Keep in mind the avg for non-hit,try to remember what the max non-hit could take.
You watch the trot of 0x and 1x +>1x, watch the profit trot, remember the last high, you got to be watching.
Have you used countback.

Nice to see +195

Keep up the good work

[RouletteGhost]

off hand the average hits in 37 spins are 24 numbers right? so after 10 uniques we should have 14 wins on KTF? 24 minus 10 is 14

[nottophammer]

yes, but i work on 40 spins
interested in spins11-40, those 30 spins on avg 15 non-hit, but its where the 15 repeats come, so you have to watch the trot, find away/your way to read the trot,its all about 0x,1x then the >1x.

[denzie]

I like to get a few repeaters straight after our 10 spins. Then go in..... didn't failed me yet.
Can't say it enough. ...Thx Notto!

@Jimmy B. ....what you mean ? The software or the casino ?

[nottophammer]

RG
KTF started out for me just betting off the non-hit, that machine of death that i play on just seemed to catch me out after some time,so i'd go back to the drawing board,come at it a different way, again and again.
Then i come across GUT and boom it hit me The trot that Winkel and Azim where talking about. Me betting non-hit, but it was seeing the trot,how those pesky 1x's mucked me up, so i learnt when i could bet 1x+>1x together, or 0x+1x, i learnt how to mix them up.
Perhaps if Winkel could have gone on, he might have shown his way to bet just more than the one crossing.

The avg doc its all info, the more info you have, will help show the trot. What about watching the profit,it has a trot + then - back up is it time to take a small profit, Jump,restart what did the Guvnor Winkel say its you decision.

[spartanrules]

Hi Notto

What you mean when you're referring to count back.
I'm currently using a rng where there's no spin history. Literally I'll just spin until the unique 10 are their.
For me it's the less spins you make the better. Start to go to deep and to you have a higher chance of hitting to many repeats.
Its personal preference but I'd prefer to get in and out and reset new game. Profit from say 20-40 units max.
When you start to chase the game it can be a long drawn out process.

Exactly
Remember that 50/60 is only an example of if you had to keep on playing,KTF
Watch that trot,like Azim said practice,practice. Keep in mind the avg for non-hit,try to remember what the max non-hit could take.
You watch the trot of 0x and 1x +>1x, watch the profit trot, remember the last high, you got to be watching.
Have you used countback.

Nice to see +195

Keep up the good work

[nottophammer]

Jackpot247.com  22.2.16 KTF  +66 #29
So we know we have a choice, go for it +1/-1 and KTF.
Or we watch,dont bet, why bet, the 1st 10 let us know how many non-hit and one hit.
Today with countback beside spins11-20, gives a good indicator for those who watch, the KTF users of to a bad start, but the figure shows, they get the profit.

we can see with countback the 10th non-hit is reluctant to show, if you've looked at the avg doc you'll see its missed its avg of 2 spins, its max at this time is 3 spins, so the decision go for it or wait, if you do bet and it lost,+1 wont get a profit, so a marty would be needed to make a profit,but it came in, so still max 3 spins.

Now the max spins will go up but when, the avg doc really needs to be 100 games, then there should be a confident avg to use.
Will have to have 2 avg doc's like Chrisbis said, one of a changing 100 games and one that just grows, these 2 pieces of info will be useful for comparison.

Code Select Expand

spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 14 36
2 9 35
3 20 34
4 20 r
5 5 33
6 30 32
7 36 31
8 35 30
9 12 29 stake
10 24 28 non-hit return
11 30 r 1 28 0 -28
12 20 r 2 56 0 -84
13 2 27 3 84 108 -60
14 17 26 2 54 72 -42
15 18 25 1 26 36 -32
16 17 r 1 25 0 -57
17 36 r 2 50 0 -107
18 2 r 3 75 0 -182
19 25 24 4 100 144 -138
20 31 23 3 72 108 -102
21 32 22 2 46 72 -76
22 9 r 1 22 0 -98
23 19 21 2 44 72 -70
24 23 20 1 21 36 -55
25 1 19 1 20 36 -39
26 14 r 1 19 0 -58
27 9 r 2 38 0 -96
28 22 18 3 57 108 -45
29 12 r 2 36 0 -81
30 21 17 3 54 108 -27
31 23 r 2 34 0 -61
32 18 r 3 51 0 -112
33 13 16 4 68 144 -36
34 4 15 3 48 108 24
35 29 14 2 30 72 66
36 14 r 1
37 8 13 2
38 19 r
39 31 r
40 1 r
41 1
42 31
43 24
44 9
45 27
46 4
47 22
48 32
49 6
50 19
51 5
52 32
53 30
54 17
55 28
56 29
57 31
58 36
59 27
60 11

61 13
62 10
63 19
64 19
65 8
66 35
67 12
68 17
69 8
70 21
71 6
72 2
73 11
74 17
75 0
76 7
77 27
78 27
79 1
80 36


[nottophammer]

Hi  spartanrules
Countback.
If you think its fair to say in spins 11-30 we will on avg get 15.69492 non-hit, now i know the math guys will say round up,but for me i drop the .69492, so 15 in 30 spins.
So if you agree then what we could see is spins11-20 get 5 non-hit,spins 21-30 5 non-hit and spins 31-40 5 non-hit, the 15 non-hit in 30 spins.

So between the blocks of 4*10 on the sheet you can write countback, countback is the amount of non-hit in spins 1-10 plus the avg 15.
Today we get 9/10, so 9+15=24, avg says at spin 40 we could have 24 non-hit, spins 11-20 get 5 non-hit so + nothing, in between the boxes write countback like i have on the sheet, i should have started at spin 39/40 with 24 and wrote coming back to spins 11/12.

You can see today got the 15 non-hit by 37th spin LOTT as well, i suppose its the perfect trot, but you need to practice if your going to play against the trot.

Its personal preference but I'd prefer to get in and out and reset new game. Profit from say 20-40 units max.
When you start to chase the game it can be a long drawn out process.
Your words, so you've made the decision, i cant agree more take an early win. I just showed how betting only the non-hits with +1/-1 can make 50/60units, but why go to 50/60, why not be happy with  say +30 and reset