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Started by nottophammer, Jan 30, 11:56 AM 2016

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Celticknits

Quote from: denzie on Feb 24, 06:49 AM 2016
Btw I'm over 50 sessions for today now. I don't play them to the end. On a new high I reset. And I'm starting to see something very interesting here.... I'll post results later on today

All the small wins do add up don't they.

What would you say the average time frame would be for each of your sessions/visits?
My session times range from 15 minutes to usually 30-45 minutes maximum.
My total casino time would average about an hour.

The one thing that I have noticed is that when I am following the trot and get to an outrageous number of not hits coming if I switch to betting repeats the repeats session is shorter and usually more profitable. Also, the drawdown is a lot less. I do not think I have had one over $100.
I think a lot of that has to do with the smaller stake because usuall I am only betting 20 numbers including the 0 and 00.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

Celticknits

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 24, 08:54 AM 2016
Celtic since you play on airball having to deal with no pitboss or dealer is nice isnt it

Yes but there are still the floor personnell watching me every 5 minutes.
I have played the last three days in a row and usually go 4-5 times a week.
I stay away from the weekends when all the yahoos show up although I have gone in at 2-3 AM on a Sunday morning and it is amazing how many people are there at that time in the morning. I have also noted that at those hours the ones gambling are usually the desperate ones and playing with scared money or chasing losses and are not playing Blackjack or Roulette but slots. If they only knew.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

nottophammer

Jackpot247.com 24.2.16   KTF +£51 #32
A few pics of what i have to do to get the numbers, see how many players they have.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

RouletteGhost

Notto these machines are nothing more then an ATM for you
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

Id be curious to see on airball Celtic how this would look if we waited for 2 to 3 repeats then went in on the non hits.....
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Celticknits

Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 24, 09:19 AM 2016
Jackpot247.com 24.2.16   KTF +£51 #32
A few pics of what i have to do to get the numbers, see how many players they have.

I can tell you that I for one appreciate it.
I download your sheets and go over every one of them in detail.

Although it is not KTF I have noticed that there is less of a drawdown betting repeats for some reason.
Look at todays sheet you posted and the trot after spin #30 (including the initial 10 numbers).
I would have been all over betting repeats at that point.

Thank you Notto.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

Celticknits

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 24, 09:42 AM 2016
Id be curious to see on airball Celtic how this would look if we waited for 2 to 3 repeats then went in on the non hits.....

I believe that is what Denzie does but he also just posted that he resets after he has any positive balance.
I think that would cut out some of the large drawdowns but remember he is playing on a fast rng machine.

I would not do this because I am playing in a B&M and want to get in and out ASAP and resetting would increase my playing time.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

tuddilue

Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 24, 10:27 AM 2016
I can tell you that I for one appreciate it.
I download your sheets and go over every one of them in detail.

Although it is not KTF I have noticed that there is less of a drawdown betting repeats for some reason.
Look at todays sheet you posted and the trot after spin #30 (including the initial 10 numbers).
I would have been all over betting repeats at that point.

Thank you Notto.

-Celtic
Yes I do that as well. You learn alot that way.

Yes I saw that as well. Impressive streak that you should want to bet at  >:D

How do you bet on the repeaters? Using the same progression?

Yes I also have alot of repeaters after the 20# spin. But I have never bet on them...

Celticknits

Quote from: tuddilue on Feb 24, 11:21 AM 2016

How do you bet on the repeaters?

That is not KTF.
Read the 80 pages on the VLS forum regarding GUT



Using the same progression?
Yes!!!


AS NOTTO HAS SAID SEVERAL TIMES BETTING REPEATERS IS NOT KTF.
KTF IS BETTING NON HIT NUMBERS.


I sort of regret posting that sheet now, with the 3 sessions, the last one of which showed betting repeaters.

Note:I can hear you laughing in the background notto.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

tuddilue

Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 24, 11:39 AM 2016
AS NOTTO HAS SAID SEVERAL TIMES BETTING REPEATERS IS NOT KTF.
KTF IS BETTING NON HIT NUMBERS.


I sort of regret posting that sheet now, with the 3 sessions, the last one of which showed betting repeaters.

Note:I can hear you laughing in the background notto.

-Celtic
Ok sorry for asking.

Celticknits

Quote from: tuddilue on Feb 24, 11:42 AM 2016
Ok sorry for asking.

Not a problem.
I posted betting repeats just to show what was possible with additional studying.
Betting repeats is a topic for another thread not KTF and is covered quite nicely in the 80 pages on the VLS forum.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

nottophammer

Paddy power 24.2.16   RNG  +28.60    70 minutes
Should go in RNG uk spins, but about repeats. I watch the #'s in the margin keeping an eye on how the uniques are going, missed it my 8 spins and the 7 unique,repeat the 7's. So its watch spin11 repeat so bet the 28 0x win.
keep watching spin 19 16th non-hit well early so bet for a repeat,lose,rebet, win,rebet lose, 18th early, rebet,win,rebet,win, go for it again lose, rebet up the chips to 2 units, win, drop the units,win. +12.60 around 10 minutes.

New machine
As above watch the margin, repeating in my 10 spins, just watch 15th non-hit is early and only 1 repeat, bet the 15 win. watch  18th early,see its repeating ,bet the 19 to come, lose, now even thou i decided to just relay the 19, i'd decided i'd exept a loss of a couple of units if it comes in, yes it wins. now bet the 18 to come3.60 win. Now watching 20 is on time according to countback, see i bet for the 21st at 3.40,lose, rebet, lose,rebet chip up,win. Again go for the 22nd lose, rebet ,win. Now its behind on the count so go for the 23rd,takes 4 spins chipping up accordingly.

This is the grey-ish area to me spins 41-60. If we use the usual avg we've seen on KTF sheets, at spin 60 we see avg of 30 non-hit, so its needing 8 non-hit in 20 spins, so lets say every 2.5 spins.
So i'm waiting and another non-hit, two off the 8 have hit,so watching,you see i bet for the 13, lose, rebet,lose chip up win, wait, so if 2.5 is good so i bet spin 50 for the 26th,lose,rebet,win. watching, marked the #2 as a repeat so i was going to go for the 27th, then see the mistake it just came, so wait 28th where i put the possible win, so i've missed 3 non-hit, but its okay +£16.00

Just me on the trot
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Celticknits

Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 24, 01:48 PM 2016
Paddy power 24.2.16   RNG  +28.60    70 minutes
Should go in RNG uk spins, but about repeats. I watch the #'s in the margin keeping an eye on how the uniques are going, missed it my 8 spins and the 7 unique,repeat the 7's. So its watch spin11 repeat so bet the 28 0x win.
keep watching spin 19 16th non-hit well early so bet for a repeat,lose,rebet, win,rebet lose, 18th early, rebet,win,rebet,win, go for it again lose, rebet up the chips to 2 units, win, drop the units,win. +12.60 around 10 minutes.

New machine
As above watch the margin, repeating in my 10 spins, just watch 15th non-hit is early and only 1 repeat, bet the 15 win. watch  18th early,see its repeating ,bet the 19 to come, lose, now even thou i decided to just relay the 19, i'd decided i'd exept a loss of a couple of units if it comes in, yes it wins. now bet the 18 to come3.60 win. Now watching 20 is on time according to countback, see i bet for the 21st at 3.40,lose, rebet, lose,rebet chip up,win. Again go for the 22nd lose, rebet ,win. Now its behind on the count so go for the 23rd,takes 4 spins chipping up accordingly.

This is the grey-ish area to me spins 41-60. If we use the usual avg we've seen on KTF sheets, at spin 60 we see avg of 30 non-hit, so its needing 8 non-hit in 20 spins, so lets say every 2.5 spins.
So i'm waiting and another non-hit, two off the 8 have hit,so watching,you see i bet for the 13, lose, rebet,lose chip up win, wait, so if 2.5 is good so i bet spin 50 for the 26th,lose,rebet,win. watching, marked the #2 as a repeat so i was going to go for the 27th, then see the mistake it just came, so wait 28th where i put the possible win, so i've missed 3 non-hit, but its okay +£16.00

Just me on the trot

Oh boy another sheet to study :love:

Nice.
What bet size were you using?

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

nottophammer

always start with .20p units, otherwise the machine could get me too the max £100 bet, if using £1 units.
This is why i said to RG does the airball machine have a naughty chip up.
On the rng machine it goes .20- .40- .60-.80-1.00- 2.00  from the £1 straight to £2 naughty.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

RouletteGhost

Airball machine is $1 chip minimum $3000 max bet. No worries
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

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