KTF

[nottophammer]

@Notto - What is the maximum number of units for the progression, u had to use with this system.....?
What is 2 or 3 units per number or more....? I will give it a test run, Thanks.




Chris

Hi Chris the progression all depends on the trot, if 0x's are not showing, then the prog goes up because the 1x's are hitting.
I've seen in testing it get to double figures, but thankfully that does not happen to often.
When you test think of where your stop loss will be, as shown you can make 50/60 units, also i've said why i take an earlier win, remember to watch how fast the non hit,hit. Todays game spins 11-20 was avg, 6, 0x to 4, 1x, so the prog was low,then spins 21-30, 3 0x's hit plus +46 0n the #26,so i stopped, in 12 spins of betting we've had 8 0x's so i'd expect to see some repeats, but the win is there so move to another table and start with 37 non hits

[Azim]

-Law

Thank you.

By the way this was done with very little virtual testing and played live.

The one thing that I have not seen mentioned and what I did was when a number hit I removed it from the sequence BUT I added the oldest hit number back into the sequence so I was always plaing with a total of 28 bets regardless of the level.

Is this correct.

I am a hit and run player player and this method suits me just fine.

I am disappointed that others are not posting any tweaks for testing but oh well what can you do.

-Celtic

What you have done is every spin becomes your 28 sleeper spin. 
The only advice I have for you is make sure you do it right. Especially when you have multiple repeats to count to make your 28 sleepers.
The trout from hell that will kill you is one that has 5-7 repeats with in 15 to 20 spins. That's were you will have to be careful as to which numbers you adding, since removing is easy it's the last number hit.
However, you would have to be very unlucky for that to happen. It does happen.
Have enough arsenal to protect you from that disaster or have a stop loss somewhere.

[nottophammer]

Just copying last nights #'s down.
From the way it starts it could be a bust day. Be back soon as i'm doing it the old pen and paper way.

[NextYear]

Dramatic!

Hopefully with happy ending...

[nottophammer]

Jackpot 247.com 6.2.16  KTF, if you KEEP THE FAITH  +£168
But you got to jump, take a win as close to the £50/60, personally i'd have stopped at spin 16. I/we talk of the trot, well how about you watch the trot of the profit, here it builds 3 spins +27, next spin down to +2, so you should have stopped/jumped. Now your calling your self stupid should of got off with the money, so i'll KTF up to +24, do you go, you KTF +£36, £9 higher than the last high, so STOP.
There you now got two trots to watch.

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 34 36
2 4 35
3 0 34
4 7 33
5 34 r
6 25 32
7 23 31
8 22 30
9 6 29 stake
10 9 28 non-hit return
11 27 27 1 28 36 8
12 3 26 1 27 36 17
13 11 25 1 26 36 27
14 11 r 1 25 0 2
15 13 24 2 50 72 24
16 17 23 1 24 36 36
17 3 r 1 23 0 13
18 34 r 2 46 0 -33
19 4 r 3 69 0 -102
20 16 22 4 92 144 -50
21 17 r 3 66 0 -116
22 21 21 4 88 144 -60
23 18 20 3 63 108 -15
24 7 r 2 40 0 -55
25 3 r 3 60 0 -115
26 32 19 4 80 144 -51
27 5 18 3 57 108 0
28 34 r 2 36 0 -36
29 17 r 3 54 0 -90
30 19 17 4 72 144 -18
31 3 r 3 51 0 -69
32 10 16 4 68 144 7
33 17 r 3 48 0 -41
34 30 15 4 64 144 39
35 23 r 3 45 0 -6
36 21 r 4 60 0 -66
37 18 r 5 75 0 -141
38 4 r 6 90 0 -231
39 3 r 7 105 0 -336
40 3 r 8 120 0 -456
41 8 14 9 135 324 -267
42 14 13 8 112 288 -91
43 16 r 7 91 0 -182
44 33 12 8 104 288 2
45 17 r 7 84 0 -82
46 16 r 8 96 0 -178
47 26 11 9 108 324 38
48 24 10 8 88 288 238
49 0 r 7 70 0 168


Just see your post next year, all i hear is Jon Bon Jovi  KEEP THE FAITH

[NextYear]

It is becoming boring...
Could you not lose sometime, just for fun?

[nottophammer]

If you are following the sheets on this you will see in between the 4*10 boxes a count going on.
This might help you see the trot.
You'll have your 1st 10 spins to find out how many non hit,hit. Today 9.

Now in jackpot joy average doc, it shows avg in 30 spins, spins 11-40, 15.72093, so if you except we see 15 non hit in 30 spins,know the MATH guys will say round up to 16,but the 15 is half of 30, perfect.

So if we agree we could get 15 non hit in next 30spins, we add the 9 +15 to get 24.

Now back track from 39/40 in 2's, this could be the trot.

So 0x 12 is early and you are +27, so you could take the winnings or wait and watch the trot non hit 14 is well early and look what happens. Do i need to show more.

Next year, its got to take a hit sometime, but like the guvnor Winkel says watch the trot if not sure then jump.

[denzie]

Thx Notto. ... played 3 sessions  (rng)... +120  units.

It could be more . First session was easy. Second session go forward and back a bit so I stopped when I was in +. Third session smoothly. 

[nottophammer]

Hi Den
Thats it you can always take an early win.
Like todays up in 3 spins,down, then came back so take the win

[wiggy]

Hello Notto... Just to see that I have this correct. Here are the first 25 spins from my live play tonight on Celtic's 00 wheel.

1. 10 (37)
2. 19 (36)
3. 17 (35)
4. 10 (35)
5. 27 (34)
6. 13 (33)
7. 16 (32)
8. 34 (31)
9. 7 (30)
10. 24 (29) So 9 original numbers and 1 repeat.
11. 3 (28) +7.
12. 28 (27) +15.
13. 17 (27) -12.
14. 36 (26) +6.
15. 11 (25) +16.
16. 10 (25) -9.
17. 23 (24) +13.
18. 34 (24) -11.
19. 29 (23) +13.
20. 31 (22) +26.
21. 5 (21) +40.
22. 10 (21) +19.
23. 13 (21) -23.
24. 26 (20) +22.
25. 25 (19) +54.

Not all smooth sailing as you can see with the 5 losses...but still came out with a good profit after the 25 spins.

cheers

[nottophammer]

it did what its suppose to do, you can always take an earlier win like +40.
Good to see it won on the 00 wheel that extra pocket can be a problem.
You'll need to dry test and see if $40/50 be a good time to quit for that extra pocket.

[RouletteGhost]

Woggy you did +1 on a loss -1 on a win?

[RouletteGhost]

I like it alot. Unplayable on a real table

Need to be airball or a fair rng

Notto, my local casino has $5 rng at the bar......maybe a whiskey and some playtime

[Celticknits]

it did what its suppose to do, you can always take an earlier win like +40.
Good to see it won on the 00 wheel that extra pocket can be a problem.
You'll need to dry test and see if $40/50 be a good time to quit for that extra pocket.

-notto

All of my live play has been on an American 00 wheel.
No Euro 0 wheel available live in my area.
I have not noticed anything bad with KTF bon the American wheel but I have only been playing it for about a week.
Made $200+ last week.
I do cover the individual 0 and 00 seperately.
So my initial bet is 28 units.

One of the main things I have to watch when I play KTF is to not get greedy.
Once I see $30-40 I start looking for an out.
If I hit $30 within the first six spins I will quit.

I may then take the $30 profit and play the Dont Knock It method.
Regardless my maximum time in the casino will be 1-1/2 hours.

Also if I am up around the 30th spin and had ANY profit I would quit.

I have to slow down at my B&M because they are starting to take notice.
I never use a players card but they can still track me with the eye in the sky and facial recognition.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

Woggy you did +1 on a loss -1 on a win?

I don't think he did.

Assuming the numbers in brackets are his stake look at the bets around spin 13.
On the loss it looks like he reduced by 1 instead of increasing.

-Celtic