KTF

[The General]

i have not played real money yet but 200 to 400 stop loss with 40 win goal seems right

Sorry to cut in, but a quick FYI...

Even when the player has a high edge he should expect variance to be in the neighborhood of 450 units or more.  Testing by hand, for only a few hundred or thousands spins isn't telling you much.
When the payer has a low edge, the variance can exceed 1k units. 

(I suppose I shouldn't ask the following question...but... ) If the method works, why wouldn't you want to play as long as possible to make as much as possible?
Now there actually is a correct answer to this question.  I'm not bashing your system, but I'm trying to teach you something that you guys are missing.  And in the future, if someone poses this question to you, then you will be able to answer it effectively.

-The General

[RouletteGhost]

Good idea. Play as much as possible to win as much as possible

Notto and celtic and denzie are 3 that i know of playing ktf everyday....

Sniper im really curious as to what your personal stoploss is since you only had one bust

[The General]

The question:  What is the purpose of a stoploss?

[nottophammer]

in the back of my mind i think: wait for 12 uniques, then bet the 24 non hits. on a loss use 1 3 9 progression

but I KNOW 3 repeaters will happen and it will fail

but the question is: how often do we see 12 uniques then some of those 12 repeat 3 times immediately? are we in profit on the loss?

win on 1 3 or 9 - 12 units
loss - big

but will the wins overcome?

a repeat number in 12 spins is taken out, we wait X number of spins for 12 unique of no repeat

RG go to the 12 unique in x spins that will get you the answer

[RouletteGhost]

RG go to the 12 unique in x spins that will get you the answer

Yes notto

Simple. Wait 12 unique numbers then bet the 24 remaining for a 40 win goal

[The General]

Question:  Why do you have a win goal?

[sniper]

awesome results

good work

what is you stoploss in your tests? seems to work

i have not played real money yet but 200 to 400 stop loss with 40 win goal seems right

since your stoploss failed only once im curious to hear it

Hello RouletteGhost,

For my testing, I did not use any stop loss.

I stopped when target 40 achieved, else played till spin 37.

I was lucky during testing. I strongly believe a stop loss of 400 unit should be practical.

I am now testing with various progression and entry/exit point.

Regard and best wishes.

[RouletteGhost]

Hello RouletteGhost,

For my testing, I did not use any stop loss.

I stopped when target 40 achieved, else played till spin 37.

I was lucky during testing. I strongly believe a stop loss of 400 unit should be practical.

I am now testing with various progression and entry/exit point.

Regard and best wishes.

400 sounds good. Thanks

[ignatus]

Question:  Why do you have a win goal?

Ken has explain his betting method pretty well, go for one hit, with big chips then quit.

KTF is played the in a similar way? Quit after a small wingoal, difference is this progression thing with 27 numbers, that is a way to disaster....as i said

[Tomla021]

ignatus you should test it 10 times?

[Celticknits]

Good idea. Play as much as possible to win as much as possible

Notto and celtic and denzie are 3 that i know of playing ktf everyday....

Sniper im really curious as to what your personal stoploss is since you only had one bust

-RG

If you read the thread you will see that I switched to betting repeats exclusively some time ago.
KTF worked for me but was too slow in making profit.

-Celtic

[denzie]

ignatus you should test it 10 times?

Ah good old jealousy 
Over 500 sessions and the profits growing daily. Winning minimum 1 br a day.
Btw I'm playing repeaters too.

[NextYear]

Den, are you playing Celtic's way?

Or you have Denzie's way?
Is it playing till first hit?

Could you update us on your bet selection, when you find time?

Thanks

[denzie]

Den, are you playing Celtic's way?

Or you have Denzie's way?
Is it playing till first hit?

Could you update us on your bet selection, when you find time?

Thanks

If I play live dealer or airball then I play as Celticknits does.

If I play rng then I go for 1 hit. Track bit further and if no virtual hit in 2-3 spins I go for one more. 1 hit is enough though as rng is really fast.

[nottophammer]

Jackpot247.com 30.3.16  KTF +79  #23

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0 37
1 11 36
2 16 35
3 0 34
4 15 33
5 2 32
6 33 31
7 0 r
8 20 30
9 2 r stake
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12 12 28 2 58 72 -15
13 21 27 1 28 36 -7
14 31 26 1 27 36 2
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19 18 23 3 72 108 -13
20 19 r 2 46 0 -59
21 30 22 3 69 108 -20
22 10 21 2 44 72 8
23 31 r 1 21 0 -13
24 33 r 2 42 0 -55
25 3 20 3 63 108 -10
26 13 19 2 40 72 22
27 14 r 1 19 0 3
28 14 r 2 38 0 -35
29 19 r 3 57 0 -92
30 24 18 4 76 144 -24
31 15 r 3 54 0 -78
32 6 17 4 72 144 -6
33 20 r 3 51 0 -57
34 27 16 4 68 144 19
35 23 15 3 48 108 79
36 23 r
37 13 r
38 21 r
39 8 14
40 23 r
41 8
42 27
43 16
44 12
45 35
46 29
47 19
48 7
49 19
50 11
51 4
52 7
53 1
54 29
55 1
56 28
57 26
58 29
59 32
60 21

61 31
62 27
63 6